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So reading all the comments here:
X is far Right, conservatives - bad.
Lemmy is far Left, liberal - good.
You both sound as bad as each other.
How your comment reads to the rest of us:
"Wrong reason people don't like twitter - bad
Wrong reason people like lemmy - good
You both sound the same to me"
If we're being honest, they're both echo chambers, but one of decidedly more malevolent than the other.
Lemmy is definitely not an echo chamber. As a leftist there’s a ton of liberal simp vooooooote blue no matter who bullshit, followed by blaming everyone but their shitty ass candidate and even shittier ass party for the loss.
The right wing in contrast is in unison lining up to fellate trumps little mushroom.
— Isaac Asimov
Have your fun here on the internet today, but just remember this "high" when your grandkids tell you you're not invited to Christmas one day. The people around you see the garbage you are in full color. They see the world you didn't care to save on their behalf. Enjoy that fucking loneliness and crawl to your forums for the only illusion of validation you'll have left at that point, from a fucking bot.
Chud.
No no you see once in Lemmy you can engage in the communist left vs liberal center-left battles. It’s turtles all the way down.
You just become someone good when interacting with the good people 😉
Already told on yourself - We all know you can't read.
The horseshoe theory holds true in many cases. Far ends of the spectrum have more in common with eachother than they do with the people on the middle. Antisemitism is a good example of something you find in both extremes. Calls for violence is another example.
False premise... not wanting Palestinian babies to be slaughtered en masse is not anti-Semitism. Fuck that.
There isn't a far right and "far left" equivalency - one side are fascists and the other are anti fascists. Opposition of objective evil is NOT an extreme, it's a baseline position.
Quiet propaganda, like this comment, did a lot to bring our broken society to this point.
You know the Palestinians, who are currently being genocided with American weapons and money, are semites right?
How does this relate to what I said?
Seems like you were using antisemitism as shorthand for antizionism
I'm talking about the hatred of jews.
Is holding israel accountable for its genocide “hatred of Jews”?
I haven't said a world about Israel.
But you say the “far left” “hates” Jews.
The far left hates Israel. The far left hates zionists. The far left does not hate jews.
Meanwhile the far right are literally Nazis marching around with swastikas.
But yeah they’re totally the same 🙄 you’re really great at playing dumb.
No, I’m saying you’ll find antisemites on both the far left and the far right - not that everyone on the far left hates Jews. Not everyone on the far right does either.
If you’re going to argue that there are no antisemites on the far left whatsoever, then there’s nothing to discuss here.
You’re arguing enlightened centrism, which is completely false.
The far right has a substantial amount of people who hate Jews.
The far left had a substantial amount of people who hate Israel and zionists.
They are not the same.
There are people on the far left who also hate jews just as passionately as the nazies do. The fact that you can't even aknowledge this shows that you're not a rational thinker and thus I don't need to waste my time with you.
What, the handful of randoms on the left that hold zero power politically or socially? The couple of weirdo loners? Where’s the evidence?!
Let’s compare and contrast with the trump fueled “Jews will not replace us” white nationalist march in Charlottesville 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 or how about the more recent nazi march in Springfield 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Enlightened centrists are just right wing grifters out of touch with reality.
Israel is doing genocide but the Jews are real victims of US political discourse
I think bombing civilians is bad and going after people because of their religion is also bad. You don't actually need to choose either or.
Id assume they meant residents of the Jewish state who are on the side of the Jewish states government, not all Jews worldwide...but I'm just giving benefit of the doubt. Similarly I assume people saying Americans chose this or Americans support genocide mean the 51% who do.
Nah, it's more like <1%. The average citizen does have a say in who our representatives are, but we don't get to decide what choices they make. When you vote for someone, you don't necessarily agree with everything they do, you just think the country would go in a better direction with them vs their opponents.
For example, Biden didn't meaningfully push back on Israel, and I doubt Trump would do anything differently. So if you are super passionate about the Israel-Gaza war, you can't vote for either, but that means throwing your vote away with a third party candidate, which has other caveats (i.e. if you have a preference on issues other than Israel-Gaza, voting third party reduces that voice). I voted third party this past election because I knew my state would vote overwhelmingly for one of the candidates (and it did, like clockwork), so my vote had more value as a protest against the terrible candidates we had instead of throwing it to either the one that would win or the runner-up.
In a democracy, things really aren't that binary. Just because a candidate won 51% of the vote or whatever doesn't mean 51% of the populace agrees with their policies, they just think they'll do a better job than the main alternative. In this case, I think it largely came down to the economy, and people thought Trump would do better than Harris on that. I personally think the Presidential Puzzle (video by Ben Felix about it here) is more convincing than an actual shift in national agreement with Trump.
every time holocaust and jews are brought up in the modern context, you are making that choice.
Unless you’re referring to anti Zionist Jews. NO.