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I got a copy of the text from the email, and added it below, with personal information and link trackers removed.

Hello [receiver's name],

I’ve long dreamed about working for Mozilla. I learned how to send encrypted e-mail using Mozilla Thunderbird, and I’ve been a Firefox user since almost as long as I can remember. In more recent years, I’ve been an avid follower of Mozilla’s advocacy work, and was lucky enough to partner with Mozilla on investigative journalism in my last job.

In many ways, Mozilla was the dream – and now, as the leader of the Foundation, my job is to make my dreams for Mozilla come true. What that means, though, is making your dreams come true – for a trustworthy and open future of technology; for tech that is a tool for liberation, not limitation; and for tech that values people over profit.

So I’m reaching out to technologists, activists, researchers, engineers, policy experts, and, most importantly, to you – the people who make up the Mozilla community – to ask a simple question.

[receiver's name]. What is your dream for Mozilla? I invite you to take a moment to share your thoughts by completing this brief survey.

Let’s start with this question:

Question 1: What is most important to you right now about technology and the internet?

  • Protecting my privacy online
  • Avoiding scams
  • Choosing products, apps, technology, and services that I can trust
  • Keeping children safe online
  • Responsible use of AI
  • Keeping the internet is open and free
  • Knowing how to spot misinformation
  • Other (please specify)

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Always yours,

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

They seem to have a foregone conclusion that AI is a positive thing, rather than something that should be eradicated like smallpox or syphilis.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Responsible use of AI" could mean things like providing small offline models for client-side translation. They're actually building that feature and the preview is already amazing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not just building it's shipping by default. That is, language detection and code that displays a popup asking you whether you want to download the actual translation model is shipping by default. About twelve megs per model, so 24 for a language pair.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I mean, generally, it is.

It's just that the uneducated masses don't realize that "AI" outside of today's LLMs has been improving our technological life for well over a decade now.

And so abused and misused for just as long. LLms and the hype and slop is a relatively new thing, this is old, useful, technology.

"Eradicated" is literally impossible, entire swathes of industries can only operate at the levels of efficiency they have come to rely on because of specialized models. And have for ages now, long before the hype and slop started.

Not every model is an LLM 🤦

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You're going to upset a lot of chess players if you get rid of all AI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's because it is a positive thing. Just because awful businesses hijacked and abused it doesn't mean it's all bad. Mozilla is approaching it in a positive way imo.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And what, exactly, is positive about it, that has no associated negative outcomes?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Specific to generative AI, I think client side generation can be a good thing, such as sentiment analysis or better word suggestions/autocomplete.

A number of other helpful tasks have negative outcomes, but if someone is going to use it, then I prefer they use the version of the tech that minimizes those negative outcomes. Whether Mozilla should be focussing on building that is a different matter though

AI that isn't generative AI has a lot of positive uses, but usually that's not what these discussions are about

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Interpreting MRI scans?

Translating language?

Object detection on assembly lines?

Object detection to sort recycling?

Identifying disease markers?

Classifying data?

....etc

Things that it's been used for for ages now, and has become ubiquitous for.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

I for one do know that and am not against AI religiously and have used it to great effect and STILL DON'T WANT TO DOWNLOAD IT WITH MY BROWSER. Just make it an addon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What's positive about Mozilla having private, offline language translation?

Gee I dunno. Maybe that you get to translate web pages without sending that data to Google?

What's positive about Mozilla using image recognition to generate alt-text for images

Gee I dunno. Maybe blind people being able to browse the web better?

What's the positive about Mozilla using AI to flag fake product reviews?

Gee I dunno. Maybe to stop people being scammed?

E: I'm assuming you downvoted because you hate privacy, blind people, not being able to scam people with fake reviews, or some combination of the above lol.