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My salary didn't change at all, but homes went up 82%. The money I saved for a down payment and my salary no longer are good enough for this home and many others. This ain't even a "good" home either. It was a 200k meh average ok home before. Now it's simply unaffordable

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

This is terrible advice. Paying anything you can up front saves you several times over in the long run.

Let's talk 500k house, 6%, 30 years, no pmi, no taxes, no extras...
Paying 100k (20%) up front you'll pay: $863,352.76
Paying 50k (10%) up front you'll pay: $971,271.85
Paying 0 up front you'll pay: $1,079,190.95

Paying 20% down (100k) will save you over 200k.

If you intend to live in the house indefinitely, you're so much better off if you put as much into the down payment as you can.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's great, in theory. In reality, you'll get stuck in a perpetual savings cycle like OP and in many cases never reach the mythical threshold.

200k savings sounds nice, but if you have to spend 5 years saving and housing prices jump 80, 90, 200% in that time that savings lead gets entirely erased.

You can always play around with your interest rate later on, but you can never change what you paid for the house

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

housing prices jump 80, 90, 200%

Happened once and we are currently dealing with the consequences., tbd

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Also pay on time and as much as you can. Don't fall into the trap of paying to close to or at the minimum. If you do that you will be in loads of dept.

The longer you wait to pay something off the more interest it gains.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

This is terrible advice. Paying anything you can up front saves you several times over in the long run.

Usually, yes, but it's situational.

For example, I bought my house in 2009 during the depths of the Great Recession, with no down payment, and got a screaming deal. If I had decided to wait a few years to save up for a down payment, I would've been 500% screwed.

(That "500%" isn't hyperbole, by the way: that's how much more I would've had to spend to buy my house now instead of back then! Actually, I'd have been even more screwed than that, considering that I'd be paying ever-increasing rent the whole time, too.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This presumes you can elect to either just spend the 100k now, that you may not have.

If you declare you want 100k, but let's say that would take you 10 years (and the goalposts wil move). That's likely 120 months of rent you will have to pay, so while you'll end up saving on interest, you'll more than lose out on rent.

Paying down aggressively and going with as big a down payment as you can reasonably afford makes sense. However waiting to save up for that downpayment may cost more in rental expenses than you'd save.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Good thing what I actually said was

Paying anything you can up front saves you several times over in the long run.

My point was that the advice was terrible. Not that there are other circumstances that could make it useful. Overall, as a general rule you shouldn't want to just hold onto debt for no reason if you have means to pay it down. It's also why I specifically showed 10% as well rather than just the typical 20% downpayment, it furthers my point that

you’re so much better off if you put as much into the down payment as you can.

"As much [...] as you can" And not just some 20% or whatever magic number.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

While true, I was thinking more about how the person you replying to probably was reacting to the trend of people talking about saving and waiting until they had a reasonable downpayment before they would consider entering the market, and how the market keeps running away from their downpayment savings.

The 'never make a downpayment regardless of context' would be bad advice, but I just presume there is a context in mind about not even having the downpayment to start with and being stuck on the rental treadmill as a result.