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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The numbers in this image aren't real.
Also, why would you assume that those people voting for Stein would have preferred Clinton over Trump?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Those totals match the wikipedia article exactly, so if they’re wrong, please update them.

I assumed Stein voters were stupid and/or reckless but not evil. Perhaps you’re right though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would someone who agrees with the Green Party platform prefer Republicans to Democrats? I'm sure such people exist, but I expect they're a tiny fraction of Green Party voters.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

People who are normally socially and economically conservative (which may in part be due to far-right propaganda news outlets) but also differ in significant ways from mainstream western conservative politics, and they are much more opposed to the genocide than they are supportable of those socioeconomic values. Not so relevant in 2016, a lot more relevant right now. There's probably more of them than you think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sorry, to be clear, you're saying that potential Trump voters would vote for Stein to protest our relationship with Israel?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not MAGA voters but possibly conservative Muslims who were influenced by Fox News and other far-right news outlets to think that Trump would be better for the economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This seems completely counterintuitive to me, but there's at least one poll indicating that Stein actually draws more support away from Trump than from Harris: https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-hurts-donald-trump-more-kamala-harris-poll-suggests-1970765

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I ended up in a debate yesterday about who is more likely to win the election and looked into this more carefully, this article if I am reading it correctly is saying that Harris dropped 0 percentage points and Trump dropped 1 percentage points and assumed that the 1 percentage point was voters headed toward Stein, which seems very odd and clickbaity and I'm honestly disappointed this article was posted and taken seriously.

Right now Al Jazeera is saying that Arab American voters are tied 41 to 42 percent Harris and Trump respectively, compared to 59 percent Biden in 2020 and 17 percent Biden in 2023. Which would make me assume about 20% voting for Stein coming from previous Democrat voters making them a loud minority. I've also seen multiple anecdotes of Harris winning over Republican votes so it seems like that 1% drop in Trump support could be coming from that rather than people leaving Trump for Stein. So what I said earlier was probably BS it looks like (although I'm kind of surprised the Trump support is this high).