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It's totally fine if you believe that life starts at conception.
The thing that actually baffles me are the states that passed anti-abortion laws, but struggle to provide adequate health care, especially for those who are not financially stable.

I found this article, "States with more abortion restrictions have higher maternal and infant mortality", but feel free to correct or educate me on the topic.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Those of us who aren't far-right chuds in the USA have a saying about right-wing policy that may explain the phenomenon: "The cruelty is the point."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

More generously, as someone who knew a large number of religious rural folk growing up, what is important to them is to avoid the prospect of someone 'committing murder'; whether society offers the born child a slow death is of no consequence, as long as no one person or group pulls the metaphorical trigger.

If I wanted to be even more generous, I would say that they imagine a support network of nongovernment religious organizations and families to indoctrinate the struggling parents and their child... but honestly, I don't think most of them even think that far ahead.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It always pisses me off when people try claiming they want to do that last part.

Not a single thing is stopping them from setting up support networks that, while I disagree with their politics, could legitimately do good by giving new families resources. But that's not actually what they want, it's never been what they want. Because if it was, they'd have done it already.

It's as simple as the cruelty is the point. Someone doesn't live their life exactly how they think it should be lived, they believe that person should be punished.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Those support organizations do exist to a certain extent. It's often an even bigger problem. It's "Women's Health Centers", faith-based "insurance" companies, and gay conversion camps. Catholic hospitals have issues, but they're the least problematic part of this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah there's a church near me that has a banner displayed with a picture of an infant saying, "don't abort me. Help is available. Talk to someone inside."

No phone number or email to contact, just a "come inside."

Allegedly (coming from a neighbor) if you go inside they try to sell you sketchy insurance and not much else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh I'm aware, I just don't count them because helping new families isn't actually the point of those.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Same people who read the parable of the good Samaritan in church and don't appreciate the irony.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's even absolute bullshit. They give "lip service" to murder is bad at best. They don't care if the "wrong" people murder each other.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

That and controlling women is the point as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Exactly. They enjoy killing people, plain and simple. They're fascists, after all. It's what they do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah it's this, it's all about protecting the in crowd and punishing the rest