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this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2024
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You should engage them in debate though. The people who need to do so are always such cowards that they'd rather ban and run.
It's easy as fuck to outmaneuver one of those dipshits. And it's funny as fuck when they stomp off mad because you made them look like an idiot.
But it's not a debate. They have no interest in listening to you, any facts you present, nor presenting any disputing facts.
I'd argue it's better to make fun of the fascists!
the debate is not for them. it is for potential impartial observer who just encountered the problem for the first time and is now forming an opinion.
unfortunately it is really hard, because since the onset of the machine learning generators the pile of crap is literally endless.
Adam doesn't debate Bob to convince Bob of Adam's viewpoint. Adam debates Bob to convince their shared audience: Charlie, David, Edward, Frank, George, Harry...
When Bob is ejected from this forum, Charlie, (et al), never hear that debate and are never convinced of Adam's views. They aren't inoculated against Bob's logic. When they come across Bob uncontested in another forum, they may be persuaded; they fall into his echo chamber. When they bring their half-formed ideas back to your forum, they are banned as apologists rather than debated.
Ejecting Bob makes your forum better. Adam debating Bob makes the world better.
Blocked
Fascism demands a response. When it stands without objection, it grows. We are obligated to respond, less to convince the fascist to change their ways, and more to extend a branch to those passers-by who might get swept away.
Sometimes that responder is me. Sometimes it should be you.
The response can also be a closed fist or the end of a bayonet.
Not a first goal, but still a time tested answer.
Sometimes that is the best response.
It's the only worthwhile response. If you try to debate them, they will just toy with you and give garbage arguments, then go silent when they run out of useless arguments.
Your objective should not be to convince the bigot. Your objective should be to convince the curious bystander.
I’ll disagree here. We have rules, and when we ignore those rules, we become what we despise.
The response in this context is a preemptive: "not welcome here". We've all heard what the fascists have to say, and it's worthless. Zero tolerance for fascists.
And blocking does not convey that message.
I fully agree. Why have a forum if you’re not going to use it to show how stupid chuds really are?
You both don't realize the sheer volume of chuds. It's great, until you realize it's endless.
We outnumber them.
That doesnt matter, it's orders of magnitude faster to generate their BS than it is to write even one well-reasoned rebuttal.
That may be true, but have you considered the space lizards? They're the ones controlling the whether or not your child gets an armed babysitter or transed when they use the litter box at school.
Just copy paste from your sources.
All I know is that the lead-poisoned boomers are going to die soon and we won’t have nearly as much of that bullshit to deal with.
Sadly they passed on their bullshit.
I don’t think they really have.
The election results all over the world say otherwise
Those are just the people that vote. If we didn’t have MLs telling each other that voting is useless maybe the election results would be different.
and those are only people that matter.
if my aunt had wheels, she would be a bike.
Maybe try it before you give up?
try what?
Democracy?
are you trying to say something or are you just generating random words?
I disagree that we don’t outnumber them. We absolutely do. If good people stop saying voting is pointless and encourage people to vote instead.
And I told you polls everywhere prove you wrong, to which you said "try democracy". Thanks for the recap. It still doesn't make sense :D
Yeah, some people don't vote, but this group also has people from both sides.
The largest group of non-voters are the young, who overwhelmingly support progressive positions.
So you're agreeing with me, then?
no. if that is your conclusion from what i wrote, i am stopping wasting my time on you. bye.
Sorry, but people who admit that Russia has an influence and has been propagandizing and encouraging third party or non-voting, are usually the ones who say that voting does matter.