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Isn't it just?
Because someone listing things like that, answering with oneliners, while yelling out "fallacy" to "win" a debate, isn't "debating"? Sure, buddy, sure.
Do you know what a rhetorical question is? Are you pretending you're really looking for a yes or no answer to your rhetorical question? The answer to your RHETORICAL question is "yes." Happy? ("Rhetorical" doesn't mean "not waiting for an answer" btw, which I'm sure you think it does.)
Perhaps read my comments again to know why I haven't answered a question asking me about a thing I didn't say? If you want to be petty and childish about taking things literally and not having a reasonable discussion, then really, why would you ask something this stupid?
I've answered that several times. Even in a comment of it's own that had nothing else in it. Why do you keep ignoring my reply?
And I stand by that and provided you that literature, which you've ignored now for several days, because you weren't asking in good faith. You didn't actually want to know any, you're just being a childish c**t who thought asking for "ten books" would be some sort of impossible intellectual criteria you thought I couldn't manage. Which definitely tells a lot about what you consider to be "a lot of books." How many books you read in a year? I'm thinking you're of the generation who doesn't read books at all, which is why you asked, but now can't actually discuss the literature which you asked for.
It's honestly getting to be a bit annoying how childish you're being.
No, but I've had this same exact conversation a billion times (yes, that is metaphorical, not literal), and kids like you always get pissy, start trying to "win" by yelling out "fallacy" (not realising that even if logic was fallacious doesn't mean the conclusion is wrong), ignoring every single idiotic mistake you make, and then going "I'm done, you're not worth it" while constantly returning to answer and so desperately trying to "get the last word." That's exactly who you are. Like I said, kids like you are a dime in a dozen. You need to up your game.
You literally referenced Opium Wars, thinking they're the same thing as the war ON drugs. They were wars FOR drugs. Not understanding the difference between "for" and "on" doesn't suggest strong reading abilities, does it?
I think you are missing the real question here. How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
See before; "you can't address anything you've even said yourself when I actually answer you, but you still have this obsession over 'getting the last word'."
You just have to reply, but you can't address anything, despite last time anally listing "questions I haven't answered." Like I've said, I've answered you several times. And like you said, people can just scroll to the start of the thread and read it. So I don't know what the fuck you're doing by being this childish.
Pot calling the kettle black much?
Nothing is stopping you from not replying.
I like using forums and discussing even with people who are obnoxious and wrong. I don't feel a need to stop replying. I don't have a childish need of "winning" a "not-debate" I'm in.
I'm not the one who loudly proclaimed they're "done" with this debate. Or was it conversation? Your use of "fallacy!" while trying to "win" a debate seemed to imply you're trying to debate, as did the list form of replying you did in your last comment.
I answered all your questions, but I know you won't address my answers or answer my questions.
Your commitment to this fantasy in your head is rather impressive, even if it is really sad.
Well, I keep bringing up the thing I originally commented, while you keep pretending to be very serious and all, then leaving these utterly childish replies, where like I've said a dozen times, you can't even address the things you yourself say.
So who exactly isn't answering questions?
A bit ashamed you were wrong? It's okay. It's the internet. It's full of people like you saying dumb shit they can't back up and get flustered about. There's nothing to be ashamed of.
I know it is hard, because I cannot find it in me to listen to you, but you should at least listen to yourself. ;)
So you're admitting that you don't "listen" to the people you have conversations with online?
This is looking better and better for you, isn't it? You ask for books, then can't talk about them, you yell "fallacy" then say you're not debating, you say you won't even reply anymore, but then keep coming back, despite not having anything to say except these childish attempts at being a smart-arse.
Why do you do it?
I can address everything we've talked about. I can stand behind my words. You can't.
You need to "up your game".
Go ahead and stand by your words anytime you are ready. Feel free to copy paste my questions, and put the relevant rant that "answers" any one of them below the quoted question. If you can answer all four with what you have previously written in your comments I will go back and answer every single sentence you ended with a "?".
Otherwise, I will just keep doing what I am doing. Which is showing this thread to my spouse, and anyone who finds chronically online nut jobs humorous, and laughing at you until we all get bored and move on with life.
On that note, there is a lot of hope that you will continue responding as we are drinking now and having a great time. If you do not mind continuing with whatever it is you are doing that would be greatly appreciated by approximately 5 people.
Cheers!
It's so easy to provoke you. All I need to do is to quote you back to yourself and you'll get red in the face.
Again, you can't address anything you've said, or that I've said.
"Feel free to copy paste" You mean "copypaste", btw. This is the extremes you'll go to. You just have to reply, but you can't address anything we've talked about, and now literally pretend like it's impossible for you to look at my answers, when you just wrote that "anyone can read the thread." Why don't you start by actually reading it yourself, hmm? It's funny that a person who can't even write words correctly asked me about punctuation. Hue hue hue. Like I've said before, you're so pretentious it literally twists my stomach to an extent.
I began this thread. I made a comment. You took it as some official claim, but even got it wrong on what the claim was. You then asked for the literature I had offered to show. Which I did. Then you refused to address it, then you started yelling something about "fallacy", (which once again is kinda funny, because it shows how you larp a philosopher/debater while not knowing what the 'argument from fallacy' is), then you started going totally off the rails with these childish comments. Even then, I kept replying to you. I answered your childish strawmen several times. I've responded with literature, but you literally can not even name the book I've given you, let alone actually discuss what's in it (because it would require actually reading the book), nor even discuss the subject of the book. Because you've realised you're wrong, and you're just such a small person that even on a pseudonymous board, you get a panic attack when you think about publicly admitting to having said something stupid. I've addressed all your childish garbage, and you can't address anything you've said or what I've said. It's downright pitiful, honestly. I wish better for you.
You keep moving your goalposts.
I haven't changed what I'm saying, at any point. I've answered you several times. If you can't read the thread, that's really not my issue, is it? Perhaps you need to.... up your game? ;)
The goal post was to answer the questions posed. You still haven't and the posts haven't moved.
I think you may have reached a point beyond projection, in a realm known as total delusion. The only one provoked here is obviously you. Easily verified by you putting everything "important" in bold(pretentious much?), attacking anyone who responds to you, all while pretending you are some enlightened individual who just has to be listened to for the good of man kind.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you aren't special, intelligent, or worth listening to. Which is why I continue to ignore what you are saying. Which I explicitly told you I was going to do.
I do have to give you some credit though. The fact you have kept this going for almost a week is rather impressive. Sad, but impressive.
I cannot wait for the next mess of a comment you decide to post!
You still can't address anything you've said in the thread.
To quote you;
And
You're wrong. You're plain wrong. The science shows this. You can't address this. You'll chew of your own leg before trying to debate me on this, because you realise you got into a debate with someone who knows his shit, while you're full of shit, and you're absolutely terrified of being ashamed "publicly." Too late buddy. Sorry. :(
All you can do is repeat your childish ad hom. Nothing else. I'll quote you a bit more, but you won't be able to address that either.
And the earlier "you think I am debating you" combined with this gives a really nice taste of irony, doesn't it? ;)
You can't stand behind those words either, because you're now extremely ashamed when I pointed out how childish it is to pretend to know how rhetoric works by thinking that yelling out "logical fallacy" means the other person's rhetoric can be dismissed. If you had ever read a book about rhetoric, you'd know that. But, of course you haven't. You don't read books. You just google the names of books. :D
ONE MORE QUOTE (which you won't be able to address):
Curious how you're still here, so upset, while loudly proclaiming I'm not "worth any further time". Almost as if I've provoked you, isn't it? ;)
I stand by everything I have said. Made clear by the lack of editing done.
Maybe stop quoting me out of context. You may understand why you are wrong.
You don't stand by everything you've said. Actually, you don't stand by anything you've said. That's my point. You keep saying things that are very clearly not true, verifiable by this thread. Like you said, "anyone can read it."
The prohibition of drugs is harmful. This is a fact. All the science we have on it shows it is. I said I can offer up any number of literature on this, after which you asked for an arbitrary ten books. I named a book called "Good Cop, Bad War." You can't address me having named that book, except to whinge about me not having filled your arbitrary quotas. Why would you be a definite authority and ten books be the certain criteria for proving something is true? It isn't. If you read that book, you'd know what it's about, but obviously, as established, you don't read. You don't even bother reading the comments you reply to, by your own admission.
Which is why I linked this: https://youtu.be/y_TV4GuXFoA?si=hFGZyNJqHnPpmuLl&t=718 You don't even need to watch that insanely long 12,5 minute video. That's just the last 30 seconds of it, where he speaks about the book I mentioned. I quote: "My position is the position of my organisation which is the law enforcement action partnership; we advocate for the full regulation of all the drug markets, to take control away from organised crime and increasingly we've becoming the most important voices for reform."
Your position is asinine and wrong, which is the point of this entire thread. But you won't be able to talk about it, you'll continue with more childish personal attacks.
edit oh like I said, you ignored the parts of the last comment which would humiliate you. you can try to ignore them to keep that thought away, but even when you delete the comments, the idiocy will remain. your need to up your rhetorical game.
When did I say it wasn't?
Do try not to quote me out of context this time.
What is my position?
Posted a comment and edited within 2 minutes because you forgot to attempt an insult, yet I am the one who is "provoked" and "angry".
Stay mad homie.
And back to the childish "no I didn't" it is. Okay, let's do this for a few comments until you get provoked into trying something desperate again.
Why would we need for you to say it's harmful? You explicitly say that you don't think it needs to be lifted for the good of society. It does. Just like the book "Good Cop, Bad War" explains in detail. But like I've said, you can't even mention the book, because it would mean that you'd have to address something you know you're wrong in. You asked for books, yet you can't discuss them, because you weren't asking for books in good faith.
Like I've said, kids like you are a dime in a dozen. You genuinely think you have some gotcha, when you're repeating the very same things that a million others like you have. This is basically just practice for me, you see. I like rhetoric. I'm also intrigued by willful ignorance. Willful ignorance like you display when you ignore all the things you've said yourself. Like screaming "logical fallacy", implying that because something has a logical fallacy in it (which it didn't, btw, you really don't understand those as well as you think :D), it has to be wrong and thus you've "won" the debate. Not understanding what an argument from fallacy is. This is like the dozenth time I'm writing this in a comment. You keep ignoring it, because you're simply so ashamed of having said that.
To quote a comment of yours: