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People on here are just out of touch. They call others immoral, yet don't see the irony of using other people's resources and time without proper compensation and not calling it immoral.
Youtube makes money off of adblocked users.
They send your watch habit aggregate data profiles to the number crunchers at alphabet hq, to sell off.
They make fuckloads of money off the free video content theyre given as well as the nonstop data stream of demographics data. Thats why alphabet bought it in the first place.
The ads are just bonus cash. They dont want to miss an opportunity to score more money by selling ad space in their data profile mines.
They are being fully compensated by me logging in and feeding them either free labor as video content or free money as data profiles. They can easily keep the lights on off that alone. They dont need more free cash.
That's not for you to say if it's "fully compensated" or not. They say "here is the service we provide, where is what we want from you". If you reject any part of what they want from you, it's immoral even if it's not illegal.
I am not obligated to sit dutifully with the volume up when ads play on my tv.
Nor am I obligated to allow ads to load within my browser.
They send the data they want me to display, down to every element on the page. It is fully within my rights to choose which elements are allowed to load on my computer.
And I wont be fuckin guilt tripped that the billion dollar company will make a fraction of another billion less dollars this quarter over my decisions to do so.
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the typical terms of service or privacy policy even mention that you, as a user, have the power to reject tracking cookies, tracking pixels, etc. via your browser configuration and third party tools? As far as I know, the YouTube ToS and Privacy Policy also mention these things. I just tried to read it but they seem to have broken it up into a sprawling multi-site multi-page document where I can't find the legalese to ctrl+f and pore over.
Can anyone find these documents, so I can read through them please?
Edit:
I found it: https://policies.google.com/privacy?hl=en#intro
Has anyone said you have to stay there with the volume up? Or even watch your screen? You're just full of bad faith.
Also, I didn't say illegal, I said immoral, which is what you accused them of being. You're not following their ToS, and you're trying to make yourself feel better about it.
TOS are neither the law, nor are they vetted for legality by anyone working in law enforcement.
TOS very often contain straight up illegal clauses; they are largely meaningless.
My argument for that is "yesterday I ate some salad". It's just as relevant to what you just said because once again, it has nothing to do with what's being said.
Thats such an incoherent response.
If you think it had nothing to do with the convo, maybe you shouldnt be chiming in on adult conversations until you can follow them.
The whole chain of conversation is about immorality, and you talk about illegality. They are orthogonal concepts. They have nothing to do with one another.
If a company is writing illegal requirements, there is no moral backing for following them. They arent allowed to ask it of you.
Go get your sippie and blankie. This conversation is too mature for you to handle.
So something legal is moral, and something illegal is immoral? That's your mature vision of things since you're trying as hard as you can to link both?
Then I guess civil forfeiture is moral, but driving 1km/h above the speed limit is immoral then... /s
Also, you're trying to fish for any makeshift argument you can muster, even if they're bad. If you just look at the basic situation: someone is asking X to provide Y. You're not willing to pay X to get Y. Taking Y from them without paying X is immoral, period. We're not talking about an essential good that only them can provide. It's not about insulin being 800$. (Which is legal, so I guess by your definition it's moral...)
Its cute that the salad guy thinks he can reason out a conversation.
Its not immoral to violate an illegal requirement. Especially when they are already fully paid in my data. Do you need an adult to explain that to you? Im not paid to tutor kids, but Im sure you can ask your mother to hire someone.
Since you have no actual arguments, and are just resorting to insulting times and again (and can't understand that illegal and immoral have no link to one another...) I'll just move on.
What arguments could you engage with? Im not debating ideal lettuce to ranch ratios.
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