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[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I was wondering when APnews would be suspect in this sub... turns out it's when it veers outside the accepted discourse on lemmy... or doesn't appease them enough.

Status quo, hiding the "real" picture... unreal. All of this while providing absolutely no evidence contrary to anything in the article. Quality discussion.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think you missed the point. The parent comment explains it well. It's not that AP specifically is suspect. It's a comment on the wider discourse where AP is but one participant. Perhaps one of the best ones. AP is generally a good source. The whole discourse on the topic is propagandist in the way that it works in favour of firms, not labor.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No I understand the point, it's that good news about the economy must be down played because of various unsourced opinion A, B, and C that don't dispute anything in the article but do still manage to accuse AP news of presenting information with an agenda.

This scrutiny is not applied when the reported information is in line with what the community believes. The article even discusses caveats to the good news:

The data showed that while the typical American household regained its 2019 purchasing power in 2023, it essentially experienced no rise in living standards over that time. That is a sharp difference from the preceding four years, when inflation-adjusted median incomes rose 14% from 2015 through 2019.

But that isn't enough. The whole article needs to be cast with doubt, not because contrary evidence was presented, but because users feel AP news is shilling.

Ridiculous.

Edit: It's evident that, once I posted this excerpt, it was clung to like a life raft considering how many times it was spammed, and is somehow self disproving the premise of the article. Kinda sounds like the article wasn't read completely before first (down playing) opinions were cast. But hey, who reads the article? :)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/78912/manufacturing-consent-by-edward-s-herman-and-noam-chomsky/

About Manufacturing Consent

A “compelling indictment of the news media’s role in covering up errors and deceptions” (The New York Times Book Review) due to the underlying economics of publishing—from famed scholars Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky. With a new introduction.

In this pathbreaking work, Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky show that, contrary to the usual image of the news media as cantankerous, obstinate, and ubiquitous in their search for truth and defense of justice, in their actual practice they defend the economic, social, and political agendas of the privileged groups that dominate domestic society, the state, and the global order.

Based on a series of case studies—including the media’s dichotomous treatment of “worthy” versus “unworthy” victims, “legitimizing” and “meaningless” Third World elections, and devastating critiques of media coverage of the U.S. wars against Indochina—Herman and Chomsky draw on decades of criticism and research to propose a Propaganda Model to explain the media’s behavior and performance.

Their new introduction updates the Propaganda Model and the earlier case studies, and it discusses several other applications. These include the manner in which the media covered the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement and subsequent Mexican financial meltdown of 1994-1995, the media’s handling of the protests against the World Trade Organization, World Bank, and International Monetary Fund in 1999 and 2000, and the media’s treatment of the chemical industry and its regulation. What emerges from this work is a powerful assessment of how propagandistic the U.S. mass media are, how they systematically fail to live up to their self-image as providers of the kind of information that people need to make sense of the world, and how we can understand their function in a radically new way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I recently got dumped on for suggesting that budgeting is smart. Lemmy is disappointing, sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

"just budget better bro" isn't a response to a systemic criticism.