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French authorities arrest Telegram’s CEO (www.theverge.com)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[+] [email protected] -18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

During my time as an amateur disinfo researcher I found that ALL the fascist groups are on Telegram. Also all the antivaxers, qanon nuts, maga, conspiracy theorists the lot. One big fash melting pot.

Telegram needs to be shut down, years ago.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Telegram needs to be shut down, years ago.

This is textbook fascism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's okay to not tolerate hatred, fascists and misinformation.

The paradox of tolerance states that if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You are the fascist who we should not tolerate.

Telegram is used by almost 1 billion people. Yet you want to shut it down because of political disagreement with what some of those people say.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A billion people tricked into using malware is still a billion people using malware. Telegram is a Russian spyware and misinformation machine. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/columns/2024/08/27/7472194/

Putin's Mouthpiece Demands Release of Durov (a likely fsb agent himself)

Pavel Durov has secretly traveled to Russia more than 60 times between 2014 to 2022

Durov concealed that he crossed the border more than 50 times from 2015 to 2022

• Despite the story that "the FSB took Vkontakte away from Pavel in 2014", his relationship with the Russian authorities 2015-present was good enough > that he was not afraid of being detained while entering, reentry& long stays & operations in Russia.

• In response to the publication about his possible ties to Russia, Durov deliberately deceived Ukrainians and the general public, claiming that he > was an exile in Russia and that Telegram had "no ties" to Russia.

• As proof of his lack of ties to Russia, Pavel claimed that he was no longer a Russian entrepreneur, had dual citizenship in France & the UAE.

• After his arrest in France and the statements of the Russian authorities, we know that he has a valid Russian passport.

• Russian authorities are demanding his release.

Pavel Durov, telegrams owner, repeatedly crossed the border and concealed these 60+ trips into mother russia. For those familiar with Durov's official position that he has become an exile and cannot return to his country, this fact alone should be interesting, as it probably means that Durov was not telling the truth about his conflict with the Russian authorities.

But go ahead, keep using Telegram, товарищ.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Look another American obsessed with Russia!

The world does not revolve around your pissing contest with the Russians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Look another American obsessed with Russia!

A single comment on Russia's bullshit spyware tactics does not equate with obsession. Are you going to refute the facts or continue to troll?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Go away Yank. We're not part of your ideological crusade.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Ah, you're just trolling. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, furries. They like using the stickers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

literally if anyone else did stickers half as well as telegram

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And you think that's only on Telegram, there's also groups on WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram... are they going to arrest Mark Zuckerberg?

If Telegram is shutdown today, those groups will move to other platforms, it could be also Lemmy.

Is not about ilegal activities, but privacy, you can have a private (E2EE) or one where governments watch all private messages.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Keep them bottled up at least

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

So, instead of fixing the cesspool we just designate a place for them? Why not just going after the ones committing crimes and state that big public groups must have moderation for basic shit? (Like no death threats and that kind of "moderation", not a "I don't like your opinions)