What is the charge? For operating a messaging platform? A succulent private messaging platform?
this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2024
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Allowing criminal activity to go unmoderated on the platform. Including but not limited to fraud, drug trafficking, cyberbullying, organized crime and promotion of terrorism.
Sadly, the guy in that video passed away recently.
Oh damn. He did? I just watched a video about him in modern times.
Yeah his death is why people have been talking about him over the last week or so.
true but if its truly end to end encrypted it cant be moderated.
between this and mega its clear they want your files easy to reach and access, privacy and security be damned.
the internet should be free for the same reason we have the 2nd amendment - its necessary for exposing and opposing tyranny.
so kill telegram and watch criminal orgs and militant groups just spin up their own servers or use encrypted radio or just encrypt messages themselves to send through any other platform.
its the cops and feds job to investigate these people, they didnt need a fucking all seeing AI to do it in the prior century and they dont now.
i mean seriously what happened to sting operations? its so damn easy to catch predators n shit on discord, and these telegrams are easy enough to join. do actual detective work smfh .
if its truly end to end encrypted
Telegram chats aren't end-to-end encrypted by default, and group messages cannot be encrypted. Just saying.
promotion of terrorism.
You know the accusations are bogus when you see this.
Just because it is most of the time bullshit, it doesn't mean that is not a thing ever. The "think of the children" doesn't imply that legit application of child-protection laws are not a thing.
Telegram is for example known for Russian military bloggers, which are, in fact, promoting terrorism.
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ahhh, I see you know your digital crimes well!
I hope you realise that the comment you replied to is really just a reference to the Succulent Chinese Meal video.
I understand this reference
Most unexpected reference I've ever seen.
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See, this is a tough one. Privacy concerns are legitimate, but also, when people keep reminding that Meta was a key player in acts of terror and genocide what is often not said is that a lot of it happened over Whatsapp groups and direct messages, as in India and Burkina Faso. Direct messaging apps are also social media.
I don't have a solution for this. It's a mess of an issue and honestly, I don't know that I trust anybody with a strong, aggressive position one way or the other.
Its actually because telegram isnt encrypted, and the ceo didnt reply to takedown requests of cp and drug exchanges
Direct messaging apps are also social media.
How do you define social media in a way that includes DMs but doesn't include basically all communication?
One thing that has always felt different about Telegram in particular was the large, public groups. I’ve never used WhatsApp but you can’t really get the same virality on something like Signal or plain SMS/RCS/etc. If you can widely share “rich” media, it kinda fits the bill for social media imo.
I think 30+ people died directly in India due to fake message rumors on WhatsApp last year. The rumours were basically of child kidnapping rings doing the rounds and if someone new wandered in into a secluded community, they would be suspected and in rare cases, killed. Since India saw an exceptional implosion in smartphone usage in recent years and WhatsApp is the most popular messaging platform there, it's a travesty that it happened.
Don't blame the messenger.
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But by default the comms aren't end-to-end encrypted. Isn't desiderable that criminals use telegram rather than signal?
Not being end-to-end encrypted is meaningless to law enforcement if Telegram refuses to turn over the chat contents (which they do). Law enforcement can't just eavesdrop on the conversation without Telegram's cooperation. The chat contents are still secured by TLS from the user's device to the Telegram servers.
Smart professional criminals rarely use Telegram for this stuff anyway. There's WhatsApp and plenty of other popular platforms of end-to-end encrypted
'Smart criminals use WhatsApp' Did u forget the /s flag?
It's perfect for criminal use! Unbreakable encryption between two parties! 100% safe, believe me.
IMHO not a coincidence that the app constantly prompts to save unencrypted backups to Google drive for "safety"
Smart criminal use Briar or Signal, not WhatsApp, lol, which totally has a backdoor for the government.
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Seriously? Arresting messaging app CEO for content of people's chats? I guess pigs are pissed, that they can't crack the encryption.
Encryption on Telegram only works in 1 on 1 chats and is turned off by default so no one use it.
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On one hand, that's awful and Telegram should continue to exist totally unmoderated.
Oh the other, anybody rich enough to arrive in a private jet belongs in jail for being a total psychopath.
He was travelling from Azerbaijan, where he had been meeting with Putin. There is a theory that he knew he would be arrested and chose to go there to avoid retaliation and falling out of a window.
Putin leaving his bunker?
That would be a wild story.
"Putin killed by Telegram CEO, Russia in chaos"
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Liberté égalité no dissente
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