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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tell that to the jury. What are you expecting to happen?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow, it is almost like a place where juries let people off on the gay panic defense is a place that is unsafe to be as a trans person.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

weird how "gay panic" is a defense allowed by the courts, but an appeal to jury nullification is not.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do other countries not have juries?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Some other countries (and just a couple US states) explicitly ban the gay panic defense.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Are other countries juries exposed to our media ecosystem (in the same way) which the US government supports and which pushes vile transphobia constantly?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll tell em you're gay and I panickededgeworth-shrug

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you don't have any interest in a good faith discussion, you can just go ahead and stop replying to me please.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

good faith is being obtuse very-intelligent

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Good faith? I'm sorry, could you be more specific? What do you mean?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the state, inside and outside courtrooms, to shut down hate crimes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that's a very easy thing to say but I'm afraid you're going to have to be more specific.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

funny how we can defend property through a system of laws and enforcement but that's not specific enough to stop hate crimes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay so you don't know then? It's ok to just say that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

don't know what? laws that criminalize being queer should be stricken from the books and the people who do hate crimes should be punished. both of those elements are being rolled back in the US and you're being obtuse.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

laws that criminalize being queer should be stricken from the books

There are no such laws in existence in this country.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile in reality, there is still plenty of shit on the books that will be enforced again if the conservative Supreme Court changes precedent and new laws are being passed with the ultimate goal of exterminating trans people.