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My Linksys router died this morning - fortunately, I had a spare Netgear one laying around, but manually replacing all DHCP reservations (security cameras, user devices, network devices, specific IoT devices) and port forwarding options was a tedious pain. I needed a quick solution; my job is remote, so I factory reset the Netgear (I wasn't sure what settings were already on it) and applied the most important settings to get the job done.

I'm looking for recommendations for either a more mature setup, backup solution, or another solution. Currently, my internet is provided from an AT&T ONT, which has almost everything disabled (DHCP included), and was passing through to my Linksys router. This acted as the router and DHCP server, and provided a direct connection to an 8-port switch, which split off into devices, 2 more routers acting as access points (one for the other side of the house, one for the separated garage, DHCP disabled on both).

If going the route of a backup solution, is it feasible to install OpenWRT on all of my devices, with the expectation that I can do some sort of automated backups of all settings and configurations, and restore in case of a router dying?

If going the route of a smarter solution, I'm not sure what to consider, so I'd love to hear some input. I think having so many devices using DHCP reservations might not be the way to go, but it's the best way I've been able to provide organization and structure to my growing collection of network devices.

If going with a more mature setup, I'm not sure what to consider for a fair ballpark budget / group of devices for a home network. I've been eyeing the Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway + 3 APs for a while (to replace my current 1 router / 2 routers-in-AP-mode setup), but am wondering if the selfhosted community has any better recommendations.

I'm happy to provide more information - I understand that selfhosting / home network setup is not a one-size-fits-all.

Edit: Forgot to mention! Another minor gripe I have is that my current 1 router / 2 routers-as-AP solution isn't meshed, so my devices have to be aware of all 3 networks as I walk across my property. It's a pain that I know can be solved with buying dedicated access points (...right?), but I'd like to know other's experiences with this, either with OpenWRT, or other network solutions!

Edit 2: Thanks for the suggestions and discussion everybody, I appreciate hearing everybody's recommendations and different approaches. I think I'm leaning towards the Ubiquiti UCG Ultra and a few Ubiquiti APs, they seem to cover my needs well. If in a few years that bites me in the ass, I think my next choices will be Mikrotik, OPNsense, or OpenWRT.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If going the route of a backup solution, is it feasible to install OpenWRT on all of my devices, with the expectation that I can do some sort of automated backups of all settings and configurations, and restore in case of a router dying?

That's what I do. Every device runs OpenWRT except my ONT. Backing up is just a cron script that calls each one and pulls the config.

For my router, I ended up buying an old Barracuda LoadBalancer 340 and installing OpenWRT (it's an x86 device so it was super easy). It's a little over-powered for a router, but the price was right. It's got more than enough spare resources to run some extra stuff, including Docker, so I'm probably going to throw my PiHole container on there since I haven't been impressed with AdGuard Home (which is available in the repos).

And if you go for an old Barracuda unit like I did, the default BIOS password is bcndk1

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not very experienced with OpenWRT - how sensitive is it to device changes? If your Barracuda dies tomorrow, do you have to purchase the same brand / model, or could you slap your saved config onto a similar device? Is there some sort of device compatibility to consider?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The barracuda I have is ~~basically~~ an x64 board in a 1U half-depth case with two extra network adapters (3 total including the onboard one). I have two of them: one's running OpenWRT (my router) and the other vanilla Debian.

So if my router one dies, I can just either pull the drive from it or restore a config backup to another suitable PC that has two NICs (or promote the second unit I have).

The config in openwrt is abstracted. So if the hardware and NICs are totally different, you might need to reconfigure the device names in the config so they're referencing the right NICs, but everything else should "just work" (e.g. WAN and LAN are just arbitrary labels).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, that's really nice. The more I hear about OpenWRT and OPNsense being so well supported, the more I lean towards those as my solution

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I almost went with OPNsense (having previously used pfSense), but everything else was already on OpenWRT so I decided to keep things consistent. OPNsense is a solid choice, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

It is somewhat sensitive, at least wireless device names, network/switch setup, MAC addresses and LED/ GPIO settings are going to be different - almost always (and this list is far from complete).

Usually what I do is I take the config and merge it manually (Beyond Compare), to the default config of a new unit, that way I can adjust the interfaces and other details.

To be fair I only do this because I tend to deploy OpenWRT on customers quite a lot and something I don't have a config for some specific hardware already done. A router is basically a fridge, it should last a long time and even if you've to manually configure everything it won't be much of an issue 5 or 10 years later.