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I mean, it makes sense no? They are a business after all. Why wouldn't they try to enforce their ads? I personally don't watch YT that much but why not just pay up if you need ad free experience? The content on YouTube is good because creators get paid well from ads
Creators get paid well by their sponsors. They get shit on by Google which is why every video is sponsored. The aggressive ad rolls before and during the video pretty much just benefit google.
Google is still hosting the content. That costs them.
The one thing I have to concede is that you can use YouTube as a personal video storage system for free. Just upload them and set them to private and they will be kept for you indefinitely. There is nothing for Google to gain from letting users do this.
Isn't it more because so many people watch with ad blockers that they got shit from Google though? (I'm saying this as someone that uses an ad block and sponsor block too)
If you've ever seen a YouTuber speak in a weird way, stumble around certain topics, leave out important information that might be controversial or censor something that seems minor, then you should know the answer to your question is no.
YouTube creators are being paid by a metric, you cannot really influence: CPM (cost per 1000 impressions). Basically, advertisers bid on how much they are willing to pay to show ads on your channel. For advertisers, it of course doesn't make sense to invest money on channels that have mediocre reach. Google describes your channel with metrics like your country of residency (poorer countries are getting smaller ad bids), type of content (cute animals doing cute stuff is getting paid less than tech or cosmetic videos), daily views and engagement rating (comments, likes, subscriber growth, percentage of video watched), etc. This puts all the pressure on the content creators: you are either huge and then you are getting paid well or you are not and then Google could pay you the full ad revenue for your channel (they take 45% I believe) and it would still be insignificant. You and me having ad block doesn't change that.
Ad bidding happens realtime though (I briefly worked on software in that sector) if you have ads blocked those calls to ask for bids won't occur. So having an adblock on reduces the chances of creators getting such ad money
While this is true, the payout itself is laughable for anyone isn't fully focused on optimizing their videos on monetization. And even those creators are better off with you supporting them directly by either joining their community on YT or donating to the Patreon they got set up. Google gets a cut from you joining their YT-community, but the creator still gets a better payout than they ever would if you only watched the ads. The next logical step for Google is to make linking or mentioning Patreon incompatible with their ToS since the Patreon circumvention is losing them revenue as well.
Also YT is prominently demonetizing videos for the any reason they see fit (and withhold from the creator) and when that happens, the creator gets nothing, but the viewer still sees ads, even tho they do see less ads. It's an exploitative system that went downhill over many years. The culprits here are not the evil ad block users, but the greedy shareholders expecting infinite growth.
If you don't want to sound like a shill, be careful, because you do here...
YouTube is making a LOT of profit, they want MORE, endlessly MORE. "They are a business after all" is not valid in these conversations unless again... shill. Hopefully you didn't realize what you sound like here and this news is helpful to you going forward.
Calling someone a shill is not a good response.
I genuinely don't see the issue with blocking ad blockers if they're giving a subscription as an option. You literally get to choose to pay with your data and time or with cash. Video hosting isn't a public service.
Besides, YouTube has been screwed over by advertisers numerous times, and creators had to share some of the burden. If YouTube Premium is what allows YouTube to stay running and improve while also paying creators with more controversial content, I'm all for it.