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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No. They wouldn't be. They would still be right wing and regressive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

the issue is 'communism left', 'capitalism right', which are economic policies.

which is separate from socially liberal/left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

100% on point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The government interferes with the economy to influence our behavior, so economies are inherently tied to politics. Eg giving a tax break if you have a child, or applying tariffs to imported goods. Or even more broadly, globalization and colonialism.

The way each political party might interfere with each economic system and use it to regulate the people can be different as well. Theoretically, communism is anarchist in nature and moneyless, so the economic system would change the government, and the government would change the economic system.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if you're drunk, or just misread "policies" as "politics" or what.

But that made no sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Policies are result of politics. Politics creates policies.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

...was that an attempt to be condescending and say "sweetie"? because it came out really creepy instead.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's spelled sweaty, sweaty. It's OK you don't know how to spell

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

is it supposed to be an insult? are you trying to be funny? because it just makes you look stupid.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sweaty, I don't think I'm the one who looks stupid here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

well you're right about one thing.

you don't think.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for your contribution, sweaty

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

conservative

adjective 1. averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I already know that. I'm telling you that you're wrong, if we achieved communism, conservatism wouldn't become leftwing or progressive or non-traditional.

Is feudalism left wing? Is it progressive? If someone advocated for us returning to serfdom instead of capitalism, are they being progressive? Are they left wing?

Modern conservatism would look as ridiculous as advocating for feudalism in a capitalist society. If communism was achieved, there would be some other hypothetical political ideology that would be demanding progress, which would be the new left wing.

Which is good, we are meant to grow as a society.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You are an example of a failed education. Period.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think you're projecting. You can't even argue in good faith where I am "wrong."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you even speak English? It's the people who want to keep things the way they are who are conservative and traditional.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I don't appreciate the verbal abuse. I obviously am speaking to you clearly.

people who want to keep things the way they are who are conservative and traditional.

Yes, OR they advocate for regression (aka Make America Great AGAIN), and in a future communist society, conservatives by today's standard would be advocating for things to regress. To today's standards. Which is like advocating for a return to feudalism by modern standards. How is this hard for you to understand?

Change itself is not inherently leftist. A change towards traditional or historical values (eg reversing Roe V Wade) isn't leftist or progressive; it's regressive. That's right wing.

If an Amish person ran for office and wanted us all to give up electricity and to return to life as it was in the 1600s, they would not be leftwing. They would be considered right wing conservative. Advocating for policies from the past makes you regressive and conservative, not progressive and leftist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There's no OR here. I am talking about what the word means.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That IS what it means lmfao.

Do you think an Amish president would be leftwing if they demanded we return to 1600s technology and laws?

What if someone demanded we return to colonial times, is that left wing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You are laughing while I am profoundly annoyed by your complete and utter ignorance. The fact is that the communists in Russia and China are regarded as conservatives. That is a fact that is known by educated people.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lol link a source then for this claim, since every educated person knows it

Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')[1][2] is a left-wing to far-left sociopolitical, philosophical, and economic ideology within the socialist movement,[1] whose goal is the creation of a communist society, a socioeconomic order centered around common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products to everyone in the society based on need.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Did you see that? It's leftwing. Communism by definition is left wing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But conservatism doesn't mean right wing. Conservatism means traditionalism. If your parents don't let you date until your 18 and say no sex before marriage we say they are conservative / traditional. It has nothing to do with any specific political ideology. It depends what is traditional in your country. You really missed out on a basic education.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

socially right wing. conservative means social policies which maintain the status quo and resist change. Same as socially right wing. Allowing women to vote was a change, and was inclusive - both socially left wing. (That is, there are absolutely political ideologies that align with this)

there's also economically right wing, which is capitalism, or economically left, which is socialism, and eventually communism.

The person you're replying to is absolutely retarded, there is no doubt - but you're not correct in this area either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

You agreed with me and then you said I was wrong. All I am doing is explaining the meaning of words.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

you are not speaking with anyone clearly.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't appreciate the verbal abuse