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Just got an email thanking me for being a 5-node/free user, but Portainer isn't free and I need to stop being a cheap-ass and pay them because blah blah economic times enshittification blah blah blah.

I've moved off them a while ago, but figured I'd see if they emailed EVERYONE about this?

A good time to ditch them if you haven't, I suppose.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've never really seen why portainer is used beyond a shiny UI. Docker compose file is enough for me

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Terminals are powerful and flexible, but still slower than a dedicated UI to see states at a glance, issue routine commands, or do text editing.

Terminal absolutists are as insufferable as GUI purists. There is a place and time for both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I open up two terminal windows. The first runs watch docker ps and the second is where I make changes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Beautifully said. I can't say I've come across too many GUI purists, but I've definitely been shamed by terminal absolutists who are fine with turning a 1 second process into a 10 second one. There's a time and place for both.

See also: bass players who use a pick.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Wtf at y'all talking about, it's usually way faster to do these things in terminal. I guarantee I can restart a docker container faster with a terminal then you can with a browser.

Alt+enter brings up a terminal, then I type literally "ssh server" and I'm ssh'd into the box. 'sudo docker restart containername' and the password and I'm done before Firefox even loads for your dumbass and I didn't even have to lift my hands from the keyboard. And for common and repeatable tasks there are these things called aliases and the ability to chain commands. I can condense all of that to a single command. Lmao. GUI plebs are so annoying with their ignorance

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Wow, you're an ass. I bet I could update a dual monitor setup with different resolutions, refresh rates and positions with nvidia-settings faster than you can editing xorg.conf in vim. My point is that people should use the best tool for the job instead of stroking their superiority complex to prove a point.

slackware has been my daily driver since the late 90s. It still boots to CLI by default. I'm more than comfortable in a terminal emulator. I'm also fine with clicking on stuff. I don't use portainer, but there's nothing wrong with people who do.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You obviously don't know your way around a terminal at all... I guarantee I can do anything faster in terminal than you can in a GUI. Especially for repeatable tasks like restarting a container.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Being a terminal purist is wonderful for those of us who live our lives deep in the caverns of Linux, but in actual production use you very often find situations where less technical users have to interact with the systems that we build.

For my work, I need a way for low level tech support and technicians to go in and restart a container from time to time, and these people curl up in a ball and scream if you show them a command prompt. Having a UI removes a lot of friction.