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Hamas official says group would lay down its arms if an independent Palestinian state is established (apnews.com)

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A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The ANC in South Africa was largely ineffective. Mandela specifically is a great example of how people can get much more done as moderates than violent radicals. He would never see any sort of true progress until after his imprisonment and subsequent putting down of arms.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I recommend reading about the ANC before posting about it because the literal opposite happened. You got the American fairy tale propaganda version.

What really happened is that after his imprisonment for peaceful protesting, Nelson Mandela realized that Apartheid Nazis don't listen to words so he started leading a violent resistance and got put on the American terror watch list.

Nelson Mandela’s legacy: As a leader, he was willing to use violence

To many South Africans, particularly within the African National Congress, Mandela was a great man partly because of his willingness to use violence, not in spite of it.

Many believe apartheid would have endured much longer if he hadn’t rebelled and overturned the ANC’s long-standing nonviolence policy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You are talking about young Mandela. He went to prison for 20 years and changed his mind about a lot of things.

It was only when all else had failed, when all channels of peaceful protest had been barred to us, that the decision was made to embark on violent forms of political struggle.

https://www.azquotes.com/quote/658964

Hamas is not a protest organization. They pick up the gun first, not last. They have direct connections to Iran and Syria, who could put more diplomatic pressure in favor of a peaceful solution. But none of them want that.

They want to kill for revenge and domestic support and personal gain. Someone like that will never make peace. Just like Netanyahu.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Hamas is not a protest organization. They pick up the gun first, not last.

If you just ignore the peaceful Great March of Return your argument makes sense

Too bad that Hamas did do a peaceful march first, probably knowing that israel would never respond to it. But they still did it. Why? o cover themselves against baseless accusations like those of yourself that would bring up that "they should have tried something peaceful first".

Hamas did a peaceful protest. Israel massacred them.

Someone like that will never make peace.

You can scroll up and read this article. It says Hamas wants peace. Who doesn't want peace? Israel.