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A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you consider that Hamas only exists to fight against Israeli oppression over an ineffective PA, it makes sense that if the oppression ends, Hamas becomes irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

HAMAS exists to exterminate Isreal and its inhabitants. Their offer is 'free Palestine, let us be the dominant political party, and let us form and official national army, then we chill for 5 years! Don't worry what we might do after that!'

Hamas isn't going to just die out if they win. Isreal would be suicidal if they agreed to the 'deal'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Oke, and Israel exists to exterminate Palestinians and other arabs in their holy quest for greater Israel. Why is Israel continuing to settle the West Bank if Hamas is the big bad?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Two issues. The first is that they aren't going to get pre-1967 borders. The larger more important point though is that Hamas just admitted they aren't a legitimate government power and are actually terrorists instead. Own goal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Terrorism is a verb.

Terrorists are people that commit terrorism.

Official count is now 42,000 dead Palestinians, but that is because the ability to count the dead no longer exists. The number is probably closer to 100,000

Israeli doctors have come forward to detail how amputations are regular for Palestinian prisoners who have been zip tied for months now.

Any definition of terrorism that includes Hamas, also includes the Israeli government.

Edit: recognizing your username, now is when you'll call me antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You just got downvoted for correctly realizing that terrorism is literally a noun. Strange times.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My comment was terrorismed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I didn't downvote you, but I didn't understand your comment are all. But, I probably couldn't diagram a sentence anymore.

But, at the risk of being stupid here, wouldn't terrorist be the noun and terrorism the verb?

Terrorist is someone who uses violence against a civilian population to enact political change, and terrorism is the act of using violence against a civilian population to enact change?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for asking. I respect that.

Terrorism is a noun. It is the use or act of political violence to create fear in a populace. It's a little tricky because those sound like doing something, which would be a verb. But we're describing the thing those people are doing.

Terrorists do acts of terrorism. People do things. What do they do? They terrorize. They terrorized. They will terrorize. She terrorizes. That's the verb.

Terroristic would be the adjective.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Huh, okay, I think I see where you are coming from.

The only issue I have with trouble with understanding is that I don't think terrorism and terrorize can be considered the same word.

If I'm a terrorist, I do a terrorism, I don't terrorize.

Similarly, I terrorize my cats when the get poop on a paw with water, but I don't commit a terroristic act against them when I wash their feet

Of course, I think most of that comes from creaturely a poorly defined word with an amorphous meaning that is based off of, but isn't, a similar word.

Terror may be a root word for terrorism, but I fell like the definition has changed enough that the conjugation is different

I honestly don't understand how people who think this is easy can think math is hard.

Than you got your previous response, too. I did find out useful.

Edit: to be clear, I am fully aware I have no idea what I'm talking about here, language wise, so the above 'I think I can see where you were coming from' was meant more as a 'I think I understand'

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It's fair to say "terrorize" isn't a verb that fits well. But then we're left with "doing" being the verb in "doing terrorism." And "terrorism" in that context is a thing - a noun.

Most "isms" are nouns. Mormonism, romanticism, communism, terrorism. Romanticists romanticize and are different than romantics who romance. Communists don't really commune. There's really no Mormonizing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's the difference between terrorists and the resistance to an occupation?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The distinction comes from the ends they seek and the means they go about achieving those ends.

Oh Allah, destroy the Jews and their supporters. Oh Allah, destroy the Americans and their supporters. Oh Allah, count them one by one, and kill them all, without leaving a single one.”

-prayer of Sheik Ahmad Bahr

I could easily get behind a platform that acknowledges that 7 million Jews now live in Israel and forcing them out (or even worse, killing them) would be a humanitarian catastrophe, but instead Hamas’ position is just as unyielding and genocidal as what Bibi’s admin has been waging upon the people of Gaza and the West Bank. They’re only now talking about laying down their arms because it benefits their attempts to paint themselves as the reasonable party in this conflict which I find to be a farce. More conflict and death benefits both Likud and Hamas.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

With them on top of that new state? There will never be peace as long as Netanyahu and Hamas are in power. They all need to go

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think Israeli leadership has already made the decision that all of that region is their land and they're not sharing it with anybody, or if they do, it'll be smaller reservations, similar to American Indian reservations in the US. They just want the Palestinians to eventually fade away. Violent groups like Hamas just help them more than anything because it gets Israelis riled up and gives their military an excuse to go in and carve out even more territory, so I'm sure they don't even care about this, they're like, "Why would we want you to lay down your arms?"

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (44 children)

Lmao, fuck this guy. He doesn't give two fucks about Palestine or its people.

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