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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What's your (or any master/guru you know) guidance for people to stop working. Is it truly catch-all and trying is enough?

I'm very interested in the topic and love new perspectives

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trying is definitely enough to realize that it's possible to meet your goals if you know what your goals are.

Values determine your goals.

My values were maximizing time spent as I saw fit.

My goals were to continue all of my hobbies and interests while maximizing time for myself.

If that's all you want to do, if those are the most important things, then it's pretty easy to achieve that in multiple ways.

One solution isn't a catch-all, but there are so many solutions that you don't need a catch-all.

I'm definitely not a master or guru; i tried a bunch of things to meet my goals and a few of them worked and work for other people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Personally I'd agree on similar values and goals but my personal anecdote side tracks from the point of an accessible solution to anyone. Even I'm in a more privileged situation than an average human and still have issues with the income-expense equation yet to solve, not for a lack of trying.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is another very common rationalization for inaction.

That's why I said there are multiple solutions to this problem for the set of values.

If your argument is that a single solution doesn't work for every single problem for every person all of the time?

Of course not.

You can own the perfect pair of pants, but your pants aren't going to feed you.

That is a separate problem.

But that sort of anxiety exercise has no bearing on the practical solutions for maximizing your free time while working less.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think you might've misunderstood?

I don't have that argument (or any arguments) in any of my comments and I don't believe there's a single solution to everyone.

I have only been interested in the framework that relies only on trying to see if there's anything new to apply to my or any different situation.

Clarifying(?) edit:

Sure I think I see you champion a mindset shift, and that is definitely what most people would first need. In addition to that, there's hard math that needs to work. Similarly; a person might want to become an entrepreneur, they have that anxiety or fear of leaping to the unknown I detect from your message. When they cross that barrier, they also need to have the numbers which are sustainable. A wonderful can-do attitude and trying again and again but with failing numbers isn't enough.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I am misunderstanding.

There are definitely multiple effective solutions to your or anyone's situation to maximize their personal free time and work less.

Trying(by which I specifically mean enacting those solutions) is the largest stumbling block I've encountered for anyone to implement those solutions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Sure. I appreciate the view, even though I can't verify if a lack of trying is a common thing or not. Personally I'm past that issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean you've personally exhausted all solutions to your desire to maximize your own without success?

What do you mean you're past that issue?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No I don't mean I've quit trying. I mean that I am past needing the will to try. I'm equipped with it forever, and am actively continuing to pursue solutions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What have you tried so far?

And which goals are you pursuing specifically?

Or I guess you can reverse those questions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Just the goal of removing the mandatory quality of working. Free from work. Quitting forever. Every day a personal choice. To use professional skills for helping those who need them instead of benefiting capitalists.

I'll skip the details, it'd be too long to write now.