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I genuinely don't understand what Hamas gains by continuing this conflict.
Really?
You know the human rights abuses and land grabbing happened prior to 10/7, right?
And they want the permanent ceasefire so that it finally stops.
If it's not an internationally recognized permanent ceasefire, Israel is going right back to what they were doing prior to 10/7.
Anything else is just Hamas giving up every bargaining chip they have for no gain...
There is a permanent ceasefire in the plan that Hamas rejected.
That Israel rejected, I think you mean.
Did you read the article? We are here talking about the most promising permanent ceasefire, supported by Egypt, Qatar, USA, and the UN, which Israel has not ruled out. Hamas is now drastically changing the terms to sabotage the ceasefire. It makes no sense to me. They seem to have the most to gain by ending this conflict.
Did you read it?
They literally told us the other day. Palestinian deaths help hamas. The leader was all for it
Always ask yourself, "Where's the money coming from."
Hamas is not being funded by Palestinians. Palestinians are broke as fuck.
Hamas is being funded by neighboring countries, who want to eliminate Israel. The same reason those countries invaded Israel the day after the British protectorate ended.
Cough
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html
Cough cough
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68318856
That's still "funded by neighboring countries"
The weapons Hamas is using were also smuggled in from neighboring countries as well. It's not like they bought them from the US or Israel.
Israel was already established a day after the British protectorate ended?
Yes.
Thanks for the link, it's important info. It seems like voting was interfered with, though. If you're wondering why the implementation looks nothing like the partition plan, it's because
To be precise, Israel declared independence a day before the British Mandate was over (under a portrait of Theodor Herzl), then proceeded to expel the Palestinians en masse. They also used chemical and biological warfare in their pogroms against Palestinians to steal their land.
What you believe is a fairy tale. You need to wake up because that fairy tale negates historical fact, human rights, and the rule of international law.
Yes, that was established the day the protectorate ended.
To be precise, Israel declared independence a day before the British Mandate was over (under a portrait of Theodor Herzl), then proceeded to expel the Palestinians en masse. They also used chemical and biological warfare in their pogroms against Palestinians to steal their land.
What you believe is a fairy tale. You need to wake up because that fairy tale negates historical fact, human rights, and the rule of international law.
The answer is that the more death and suffering they can cause to civilian Palestinians, the more they can drive a cultural wedge between Israel and the Arab nations. Their end goal here is to get a friendly government in, say, Egypt and then win a war to conquer Israel with that foreign support.
Riiight. I think your hat is on way too tight.
Might want to crawl up from that nationalist hole and take a breath of fresh air.
Thank you, I have been looking for this phrasing for a long time. As someone who rejects violence it's very difficult to find the words to tell someone that the reason they incorrectly think something is a certain way is because they are stupid. Just mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, shit-slinging dolts.
It seems to me there has recently been an influx of users who have their hats on way too tight.
Dude that's what they've said their goal is. Take your head out of your ass
Not a dood, asshole.
Okie dokie I guess
That's still what Hamas says their goals are lol
It's why they started this war. They wanted to head off Saudi normalization of relations with Israel
The wedge is already there, has been since the start. Our leaders are puppets, however, so it doesn’t matter.
Arab leaders are smart enough to know that attacking Israel would either lead to defeat or nuclear annihilation, and so, seek peace. Regardless of the wishes of the populace.