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Nostr is very promising : https://nostr.com/
I've heard they tend to harbor a lot of alt-right types. Possibly because users can't really get banned. Is that true?
We have a lot of projects like that. Too much for anything to go mainstream actually. We need to focus on one or a few so we have higher chance of popularizing it
Associating with crypto-fraud is a hard no for many users (I am referring to Nostro which was developed by a crypto-bro).
i don't trust it because it is very big on the design meaning to be "censorship resistant" and there are certain kinds of posts that people make that probably should be censored, and while i like that some tools exist to make pseudononymous, censorship-resistant communications possible (tor and i2p are good. freenet is fine imho), this one looks like a grift that has a neon sign saying "censorship resistant".... and i am sure that associating with those people will lead to encountering some of that material that probably should be censored.
Lightning is a terrible protocol. The Lightning devs themselves state that it's basically unusable and you shouldn't even try sending transactions valued more than a few hundred dollars. If you're bored, check out the history of Lightning; it's almost like a satire of software development project.
You're also being a little disingenuous about the nature of Nostr and it's relatioship to crypto.
The "market cap" polemic is a piece of propaganda. If you tried selling all that bitcoin, the price would tank and you would see exponential declines in the "market cap".
@Alphane_Moon @makeasnek
> you shouldn’t even try sending transactions valued more than a few hundred dollars
this is true about all of the alternatives too, Lightning is just the only one honest about it. And as someone who's been using lightning to pay my phone bills, I can say it works ok.
You don't see the problem with a payment system that is fundamentally unreliable?
Why would you pay your phone bills with lightning? I don't know which country you live in, but where I lived there are so many easier methods to pay your phone bills.
@Alphane_Moon You are the one saying it's unreliable but also you are not using it. Here is someone using it and saying it is reliable ok. Go figure.
Why would I use a payment system that developers themselves call unreliable? Are you serious?
I am not even talking about overall usability (i.e. recipient support) and UX/UI...
Millions for development? Do you have any sources? I'd like to read about it. Thanks
Turns out Nostr's founder (who is a crypto-bro) is super sketchy:
https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-dorsey-fiatjaf-nostr-donation-2024-6
oh shit. super bad guy. glad i never installed a fucking client. fuck everything about this.
All the individuals you mentioned made their contributions and statements under their real names.
The Tor team largely publishes their work under their real names:
https://www.torproject.org/about/people/
They even have a board of directors:
https://blog.torproject.org/announcing-new-board-members/
Has the lead Nostro developer mentioned anything about his support for Olavo de Carvalho (the claim that "Pepsi-Cola was flavored with stem cells of aborted fetuses" is particularly wild)? I will note Stallman, Linus have provided feedback to public criticism of their statements/approaches.
The Lemmy tankie issue is definitely a major problem.
Yeah, if they used monero instead of lightning would be a better option for the user. Not a lightning fan. Layer 2 solutions seems a waste of time and money for me, lightning included..but well, that's the result of the blocksize war.
Yeah you're probably right about that, I'm no expert and this make a lot of sense ..I hope to see XMR face this transaction load issue..that would mean more people using it
the problem i see with nostr is that it implements a bunch of pro-cryptocurrency ideas: like paying to use relays for example and with all the sustainability issues regarding crypto and us wanting to create a better network, i would like to leave money out of it