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Some interesting distributed networks (non-centrally controllable networks) (slrpnk.net)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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some projects/ideas i found in the last couple of years, that try to solve our current problem of the internet being a centralized structure that is controllable by big corporations or governments and not so easily usable with mesh technology or when not being connected for long amounts of time

https://scuttlebutt.nz/docs/introduction/

https://ipfs.tech/#why

https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/

https://www.inverse.com/science/39507-mesh-networks-net-neutrality-fcc

https://zeronet.io/

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/zaibatsu.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/low-budget-p2p-content-distribution-with-git.gmi

https://geti2p.net/en/

https://redecentralize.github.io/alternative-internet/

https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns

https://netsukuku.freaknet.org/

https://hyperboria.net/

https://urbit.org/

https://agregore.mauve.moe/

https://www.hyphanet.org/

http://libertreeproject.org/

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lightning is a terrible protocol. The Lightning devs themselves state that it's basically unusable and you shouldn't even try sending transactions valued more than a few hundred dollars. If you're bored, check out the history of Lightning; it's almost like a satire of software development project.

You're also being a little disingenuous about the nature of Nostr and it's relatioship to crypto.

The "market cap" polemic is a piece of propaganda. If you tried selling all that bitcoin, the price would tank and you would see exponential declines in the "market cap".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@Alphane_Moon @makeasnek

> you shouldn’t even try sending transactions valued more than a few hundred dollars

this is true about all of the alternatives too, Lightning is just the only one honest about it. And as someone who's been using lightning to pay my phone bills, I can say it works ok.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You don't see the problem with a payment system that is fundamentally unreliable?

Why would you pay your phone bills with lightning? I don't know which country you live in, but where I lived there are so many easier methods to pay your phone bills.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@Alphane_Moon You are the one saying it's unreliable but also you are not using it. Here is someone using it and saying it is reliable ok. Go figure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Why would I use a payment system that developers themselves call unreliable? Are you serious?

I am not even talking about overall usability (i.e. recipient support) and UX/UI...