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[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (5 children)

proceeds to generate password for each service and forget the master password

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

just use a password-manager-password password manager for the password manager password

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Or use a hardware key to unlock it. And then loose that hardware key. Does keepassxc support fingerprints yet?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Write it down somewhere. Just do it by hand.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and the master should be a paraphrase not a password.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's just recommended to emphasize length. If your password is as long as a passphrase it's likely more secure (harder to remember though).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But if the point is to remember it, then you should use the security from length of series of 5+ random words. It’s easier to remember, write down, and type. All great characteristics of a master passphrase.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't disagree, sorry if it sounded like I did.

There's just a theoretical weakness since the base word lists are usually public knowledge and bruteforcers could (and probably already have) optimize for that.

The advantages of a passphrase outweigh though as you mentioned. An attacker would first need your repo anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm adding obscure memes and anime references to my passphrases. Good luck bruteforcing that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Separating some of the words with random symbols also isn't too hard to remember and no chance that can be bruteforced.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Also, you don't need to write it down correctly, if you remember what's the missing or different or fake bit. And you can write down a few decoy ones next to it. Or have it in two different places. Lots of room for obfuscation along with some good old fashioned physical security on where you store the note. And the backup note off-site, if you're that kind of person.

Hell, just make some extra decoy ones just for fun and practice.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

just make the password a little story you can remember, e,g. "Carl+Lenny:go2a bar&spend$$$"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Hell naw, my last password was: Xé7&//sgn385d$@+îñccv72RtY¾ff°¥∆§

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

My strategy for this is to have a second password manager available on a couple old devices, accessed with biometrics (fingerprint in this case), and only the master password saved within it.

I considered saving it within the main manager itself, since I have devices where I can use biometrics rather than password, but that feels like a bad idea.

Has definitely been a life saver

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Print out your recovery kit or master password and put it with your other documents (like birth certificate).