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A 27-year-old man was killed and 24 other people were shot after gunfire erupted early Sunday morning in Akron, Ohio, during what a police official said was a big birthday party.

Officers responded to 911 calls shortly after midnight, reporting shots fired and multiple victims struck in the area of Kelly Ave. and 8th Ave., according to a statement from the city’s mayor and police chief.

The shooting took place during a “large birthday party” that earlier in the night had more than 200 people in attendance, Akron Police Chief Brian Harding said in a Sunday evening news conference.

In the shooting’s aftermath, authorities found the scene “littered” with spent shell casings that stretched down a whole block, the police chief said.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah. It will. Just not the gun control you think of.

Socioeconomic? Ok, let’s give everyone free education and adequate individual or familial financial means to exercise upward social mobility, that includes everything from child care so parents can go to school and work to health care so they aren’t slaved to the job in fear of losing everything.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

That's, to my eye, what OP was implying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yes please.

No kind or amount of gun control will fix people turning to crime because of a lack of opportunities. You take your magic wand and make all guns disappear, people who want to harm others will turn to knives. Take those away and they'll turn to baseball bats, brass knuckles, chains, and metal pipes.

Social programs are far more effective, and far more achievable too. The gun genie is out of the bottle, taking them away is near impossible. But giving people opportunities is not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

You take your magic wand and make all guns disappear, people who want to harm others will turn to knives. Take those away and they'll turn to baseball bats, brass knuckles, chains, and metal pipes.

Ok, let's do it.

Guns are a lot more dangerous than anything else you mentioned.

Also, how many children are killed in knife accidents every year?...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You take your magic wand and make all guns disappear, people who want to harm others will turn to knives.

Which would instantly be a massive improvement. Americas crime rates are functionally identical to other wealthy countries, only with a massively inflated homicide rate thanks to sick, stupid and desperate people being able to buy all the guns they want.

When people try to raise money for cancer research, do you spit in their face and tell them "you'll never cure all cancer and even if you do people will still have heart attacks and if you cure those too they'll just die in car crashes"?

You don't think it will ever be your life it saves, so you don't give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I disagree that guns are comparable to knives or baseball bats.

The only thing I agree with is that humans will still engage in violence and use whatever tools are available.

And for the record, I’m not for “making all guns disappear.”