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Google’s AI model will potentially listen in on all your phone calls — or at least ones it suspects are coming from a fraudster.

To protect the user’s privacy, the company says Gemini Nano operates locally, without connecting to the internet. “This protection all happens on-device, so your conversation stays private to you. We’ll share more about this opt-in feature later this year,” the company says.

“This is incredibly dangerous,” says Meredith Whittaker, the president of a foundation for the end-to-end encrypted messaging app Signal.

Whittaker —a former Google employee— argues that the entire premise of the anti-scam call feature poses a potential threat. That’s because Google could potentially program the same technology to scan for other keywords, like asking for access to abortion services.

“It lays the path for centralized, device-level client-side scanning,” she said in a post on Twitter/X. “From detecting 'scams' it's a short step to ‘detecting patterns commonly associated w/ seeking reproductive care’ or ‘commonly associated w/ providing LGBTQ resources' or ‘commonly associated with tech worker whistleblowing.’”

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Let's talk about wiretapping laws and states where two-party consent is required to record a call.

Where I live, I must notify the other party that I am recording. If not, it's illegal. Also, any audio recorded without consent is not admissible in court.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

"Not admissible because it was illegally captured" didn't give me the warm-and-fuzzies this comment sounds like it should've.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Complete tangent but what is two-party consent even for? I can imagine it gets in the way of getting a lot of evidence in cases of domestic abuse or organized crime.

Caller: [threatens me for 45 seconds] Me: "Could you call me again and repeat all that, for the recording?" Caller: [hangs]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Means both parties have to agree to be recorded (usually at the onset of a call).

"Be advised, this call is recorded for quality assurance purposes" at which point you could hang up. The 4th Amendment still applies in America, regardless of what local cops and prosecutors believe. You have a right to privacy in two-party conversations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Oh, that makes more sense!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

not admissible in court

I get what you're saying there but that sounds very much like the kind of detail that s possible future Trump administration wouldn't much care about

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does not matter who is president of the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is probably the dumbest thing you said all week. At least, I hope it is because i don't want to know how much dumber than that you can get.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You said a Trump presidency. Do you honestly believe that no other person is capable of being an authoritarian? Guess you don't remember Obama.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Second reply as the first was just ... Trying to understand your mental state.

Trump claimed multiple times that he loves and admires dictators. Not my claim, his. Trump said he wants to be a dictator. He said he wants to be a dictator for one day. This week he said he would like to add a third term for himself (against your precious constitution that you always love to ignore when it's inconvenient)

No other president in the history of (mostly rather shitty) presidents has ever done any of those things.

And you want to steer away from Trump to another president when talking about authoritarian?

The guys literally told you he wants to be a dictator, why won't you believe him?

Why has the US collectively been taking crazy pills making conversations like these even necessary in the first place? What is wrong with you people...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

.... Wut?

Obama was authoritarian? I'm intrigued; Exactly what mental gymnastics are you using to get that idea in your head?

Few simple facts. Obama served twice. First time he won, and he had to campaign again to be elected a second yime.Second time he couldn't run again for the third time, so he didn't.

Where exactly do you see authoritarian? Fox news quotes not allowed for answers here, I don't need sad lies. Simple facts, what did Obama do to be authoritarian?

I can't wait...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ask how many civilians Obama killed without congressional approval under the War Powers Act.

Google the IRS targeting conservatives under Lois Lerner and sanctioned by the Administration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

And you call that authoritarian?

Man you need to leave the house more often.

For one, he supports democracy, which kind of already takes the foundation away from under your arguments.

I'm not saying that any of those things are good (though the latter seems to not be something he directed anyways) but a lot of that is what the US does, or have you forgotten Iran, Iraq, Chile, Nicaragua, el Salvador, Afghanistan, Vietnam.... I can go on for a while, but you get the idea.

None of it is good, but if you want to compare Obama to any Republican president, I can quite easily tell you he'll come out on top. I don't particularly like US presidents, most are really rather dumb, egocentric, and so on, but he really wasn't that bad.