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Thomas Edison was the Elon musk of his era (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I bet that rich dumb ass would love this comparison.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

He was not able to effectively continue to experiment and research. Because he may have worked with some of the people who worked on those projects, or at least had a connection to them, and also he may have lived a hell of a lot longer if he wasnt poor. Its not good for your health

So if he didnt get screwed over the way he did he would have lived differently.

Also a concept can exist decades before it is proven.

Dude had a brilliant mind and was a genius. Money allows you to persue the things you want in a way that being poor simply does not allow.

Is this really something you needed explained?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And how was Tesla 'screwed over' exactly?

He WAS rich for a long time. He died poor because he lost all the money on his 'wireless electricity' idea that noone wanted to fund, because they knew it's not going to work. Tesla didn't know that. You know why? Because he sucked ass at physics. That's also why he would have never understood the concept of a transistor.

Please stop spreading misinformation about Tesla being some misunderstood genius screwed over by greedy corporations. He was not. He screwed himself over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I dont believe i am spreading misinformation

Marconi became rich and famous, the “inventor of the radio.” It didn’t matter that he had been using Tesla’s technology. After Tesla’s death, the Supreme Court would even rule that Tesla had a better claim to the patents — but it was too late.

His loss in the race for the radio would send Nikola Tesla on a long downward spiral from which he would never recover. Combined with his other failures and his struggles with what we would probably identify today as obsessive-compulsive disorder, Tesla descended into a tailspin at the end of his life.

My opinion about him getting screwed is this. You will have to show me this is misinformation if you want me to change my mind as believing this is my kyptonite if im wrong. But I havent seen anyone prove this wrong yet.

You honestly have a chance to change my mind here if you are willing to help me out, but ive put what i consider a reasonable effort into forming my opinion so its now on you to show me the error of my ways and im giving you the spot I think is easiest.

Ball is in your court friend

Edit: adding source i quoted from. Fyi its just the first article i found after the above reply to quote with, it is not the only reading that forms my opinion

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You kind of stumped me at first, didn't think you were referencing Marconi. I was almost ready to give in, but then I went looking for that court judgment. I believe it's this one. Lemme just quote you one fragment of the attached opinion:

Marconi's reputation as the man who first achieved successful radio transmission rests on his original patent, which became reissue No. 11,913, and which is not here in question. That reputation, however well deserved, does not entitle him to a patent for every later improvement which he claims in the radio field.

It seems like this case wasn't about his original patent whatsoever, only his later claimed improvement to it. Yes, the later one was invalidated, but the original was not. And it also looks like they focus more on patents of Stone and Lodge, only sporadically mentioning Tesla. They even state that wireless communication wasn't even the primary purpose of the Tesla aparatus, it was actually for his wireless energy stuff, altough he did mention it could be used for that.

So I stand by my opinion. Marconi didn't really screw over Tesla, altough it seems he did screw over Stone and Lodge.

Altough I admit I might be wrong, it's very hard to look up anything on Tesla and get objective results. Also, after spending an hour reading a 70 year old court case about patent infringment I decided I should probably find something better to do with my time and can't be fucking bothered anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You have much better patience than me. Appreciate your efforts friend

Stay sane out there

Edit: forgot to say thank you so, thanks for you and the effort you put in here

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"He was a genius" does not equal "he would have invented something that hadn't been invented yet if he had the money to do so."

Do you even have any evidence that he was working along those lines?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I said perhaps understand the concept, not invent it. So no i dont have any evidence for something i never claimed.

Wtf is wrong with you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Okay, sure. He might have understood the concept of genetics too. But he didn't, so that's not relevant.