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Why stand in line to board an airplane? (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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The seats are assigned. People have been standing in line for 15 minutes now. Why on earth would anyone want to stand there, when they could just sit and wait until the line clears?

I understand wanting to get off a plane ASAP, but boarding? You just end up sitting on the plane, waiting for everyone else to get on.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The real answer. I sometimes have a laptop in my carry on. I'll be fucked if I'm going to hand it over to the savages on the tarmac.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A lot of airlines nowadays seem to charge extra for a carry on than they do a checked bag. So I tend to bring one checked bag and one small backpack that can fit under the seat, which isn't classified as a carry on.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Yup yup, carry on and personal item. You can live for a week out of that. Plus no wait at the baggage claim, and no risk of the airline stealing or breaking your stuff.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you have it in a backpack you can put it under the seat in front of you unless you're in a front seat or one next to an overwing emergency exit.

This is all officially allowed and I've used it plenty of times.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Bags on the floor take what little space there is for my feet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Once I'm in the air my backpack goes from under the seat to under my knees. Then I can stick my feet under the seat for that extra few inches of stretch. It's not a whole lot but it does help.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

True, it can be a tradeof, depending on the length of one's legs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's illegal to put a lithium battery in your checked luggage anyway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

*over a percentage of weight or wh rating

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's only for cabin luggage. In checked luggage, Lithium Ion batteries are completely banned. If a battery bursts into flames in the cabin, it can be handled with hopefully minimal damage. You do not want that to happen in the belly of the plane packed in closely between everyone else's luggage with no way of getting it contained until the planes lands.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Well no because it depends on the airline.
I just checked an airline (Lufthansa) and they allow it for checked luggage up to 100Wh though do not recommend it.
Anything 100-160wh requires a permit from Lufthansa.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Interesting, that seems kinda unsafe to me. The one I checked was Ryanair, they fully prohibit batteries in checked luggage

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No, it doesn't depend on the airline. In the US, the TSA banned all lithium batteries in checked baggage:

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/lithium-batteries-more-100-watt-hours

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No that is saying all spare uninstalled batteries

Spare (uninstalled) lithium ion and lithium metal batteries, including power banks and cell phone battery charging cases, must be carried in carry-on baggage only.

Here is it talking about built in

https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/packsafe/portable-electronic-devices-with-batteries

When portable electronic devices powered by lithium batteries are in checked baggage, they must be completely powered off and protected to prevent unintentional activation or damage.

Sounds like it is ok as long as they are powered off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I read that page too. They also say:

Devices containing lithium metal or lithium ion batteries (laptops, smartphones, tablets, etc.) should be carried in carry-on baggage

So it's not "ok", but they probably don't want to deal with arresting people for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah but at the end it said

Most consumer personal electronic devices containing batteries are allowed in carry-on and checked baggage, including but not limited to cell phones, smart phones, data loggers, PDAs, electronic games, tablets, laptop computers, cameras, camcorders, watches, calculators, etc. This covers typical dry cell batteries, lithium metal, and lithium ion batteries for consumer electronics (AA, AAA, C, D, button cell, camera batteries, laptop batteries, etc.)

So it seems like they would prefer them to be on a carry-on but there isn't a rule against it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Okay, I am willing to argue:
German Luftfahr Bundesamt (Federal Airfare) allows up to 100Wh of Li-Ion in checked baggage: https://www.lba.de/DE/Luftfahrtunternehmen/Gefahrgut/Passagierinformation/Passagiergepaeck/Elektronische_Geraete.html

Both hand and checked baggage:

In jedem Fall (ob aufgegebenes oder Handgepäck) ist aber zu beachten, dass jede Batterie dabei die folgenden Grenzwerte nicht überschreiten darf:

Bei Lithium-Metall-Batterien, ein Lithiumgehalt von 2 Gramm.
Lithium-Ionen-Batterien eine Nennenergie von 100 Wh

Anything else you wanna argue is not true?

Also Lufthansa: Baggage battery restrictions.pdf
And Eurowings: Restrictions dangerous goods
Condor prohibits anything more than a smartphone: Condor restrictions

Anyway I think I made my point: It depends on the airline.
So go check with them if you travel!