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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I've heard about Lemmy for a while, and I just joined after getting permanently banned for "threatening violence" after posting "nice sub here" in a new subreddit. I wish I were joking, but it personally doesn't surprise me that much when considering my past experiences. The appeal was denied.

Reddit's most dedicated and longstanding users can only tolerate so many nonsensical and frivolous permanent account bans over the years before they flock to that beautiful forest sprouting up across the river. Lemmy should continue to grow because people like me intend to be here for the life of it.

My last few months on Reddit were spent tracking bot accounts, and taking note of suspicious patterns of certain subreddits refusing to take action against blatant propaganda bots. I'm glad to be past that, at least for now, and I wish the users I'm leaving behind luck. Things were nuts.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just be aware Lemmy has its own share of issues and extremist views. It's not as simple as Reddit is evil and Lemmy is good, both have their pros and cons at end of day and realistically they both probably have a role to play for people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It is as simple as the fact that being banned from a Lemmy instance does not shutdown access to all of Lemmy’s communities like it does with Reddit.

This allows actual, messy, contextualized moderation to happen within communities according to the values of those communities without creating broader distortions in a global moderation policy and enforcement scheme.

In other words there are unfortunately transphobic communities on Reddit and Lemmy, but the difference is there are also (many) communities on Lemmy that if you start spouting transphobic bullshit a moderator will unceremoniously and fairly quickly shut you down without a bunch of techbro handwringing about censorship or general apathy towards violence against trans people.

This aspect does in fact make Lemmy clearly better than Reddit on the whole, because this is a fundamental issue to social networks and communities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not sure I understand tbh. Seems exactly the same?

You get banned in a reddit community you can't access it, you get banned in a lemmy community you can't access it.

I've been banned from reddit communities and can still access reddit. If you've been banned from Reddit completely you must have done some terrible shit.

In your example, you're also suggesting a transphobic person has more scope on Lemmy to continue being transphobic than on Reddit. That's not a good thing?

I am quite confused by your post tbh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You get banned from reddit as a whole and you're done, lemmy.world admin could ban me and I'd still have plenty of communities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Who gets banned from Reddit as a whole though?

You'd have to literally be posting child porn or something.

Or is this just a conceptual argument that doesn't actually mean anything in reality?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I'm not on reddit but people claim to be site banned for trivial things sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lmao, I was banned on reddit for reporting something somebody else wrote. Banned for abuse of the report system. Just want to repeat, it was a full reddit ban, not a subreddit ban.

I had submitted a total of 5 reports over the life of the account. The first 3 were acted on by the admins (clear calls to violence/racism) and 2 that passed admin review.

The first report I submitted on r/worldnews led to me being banned from reddit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Welcome aboard the lemmy train!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

getting permanently banned for “threatening violence” after posting “nice sub here” in a new subreddit

A bot likely checked what other subreddits you were subscribed to and found one deemed not acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah I got permabanned too.

I still post there occasionally. I made 4 new Reddit accounts from behind 7 proxies, but they all got banned due to browser fingerprinting. But I wised up and now the 5th one's still not banned even though I access it from my home IP. I really try my best not to give such a hostile company more content, but there's still a few local subs and specific content that isn't big enough yet on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I still browse reddit from time to time (mostly when lemme feed is dried up or I'm at my computer. I don't browse it for hours like I used to, though. And I haven't made a comment that wasn't on r/lfg for months.

Most of my feed is about Canada, makes sense, I live there. But a vast majority of it is right wing propaganda. Anti immigration, pro PeePee, anti Trudeau, etc. Every week a new right wing subreddit crops up.