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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What the reddit is this shit.

Firstly the article doesn’t say that.

Cops are mostly men and yeah they fucken do hate women. The stats back that up. So changing the “system” (ie the way police forces deal with abuse to get more women involved and in positions of power) is absolutely a brilliant idea. Cops also (statistically) hate their kids so it’s a double whammy.

Pieces of shit that beat their partners and children don’t get a pass because no one gave them a sympathetic pat on the hand and a cuppa. Very few people alive today believe it is acceptable to beat their spouse and kids. They do it because they can, and because they get away with it.

If the court appointed a psychologist to your father then the system DID help him. Too late, obviously, but that suggests to me the issue was with the (almost certainly male) cops not stepping in sooner to get the court involved.

I’m sorry you suffered abuse as a child and I hope your life has been safe and full of love since then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What the reddit is this shit.

Go over to the cesspool and check the thread, nothing there is as high quality as my comment here. They are literally all fixated on one of three things, ACAB, "so horrific my feels" and "im an abuse victim rant".

No solutions. No suggestions. No understanding of the root cause.

Firstly the article doesn’t say that.

No it is heavily implied that only women can solve this through such suggestions as women's only police stations, staffed only by women.

This is treating a symptom and not addressing the root cause; which allows more people to become victims in the first place instead of preventing offenders from existing. Do you hope for new drugs to treat cancer symptoms or do you want cancer cures? Both are great, one is better.

Pieces of shit that beat their partners and children

PEOPLE that beat their partners and children don't wake up one day wanting to be awful humans. Dehumanising offenders at every opportunity because of emotional reactions, which are understandable but not necessarily helpful, only prevents treating the root causes of the offending.

Truly broken people are extremely rare, most people are the results of their circumstances. Yes there are and always will be exceptions. Exceptions so rare they might be once in a generation.

If the court appointed a psychologist to your father then the system DID help him.

I do not like going into details but this was after 18 years, and only after we nearly killed each other. Cops ignored everything until the point that two people were hospitalised and ignoring it was no longer legally possible for them, and even then the useless bastards tried to put blame on me.

(almost certainly male) cops

Female cops were involved, from some of the earliest instances of abuse. Cops are cops. More cops won't help. Governments everywhere have tried more cops. It never works. There's some saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results isn't there?

I have a genuine question on a topic that's more related than most realise. Do you think sustance abuse issues should be treated as a health issue or as a criminal matter?

deal with abuse to get more women involved and in positions of power) is absolutely a brilliant idea

Edited: Remind me again who the QPS Commissioner is? Well at least until the announcement today.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I shouldn’t have used your specific circumstance as an example and I apologise for that. I have absolutely no idea what you’ve been through and shouldn’t ever have made assumptions or attempted to use it to try to make my point.

More women would definitely help. Cop culture is massively macho, male dominated, even if there are some women in some positions of power.

Someone who decides to hit their spouse or child is a piece of shit. Someone who hurts any other innocent person intentionally is a piece of shit. Drug dealers are pieces of shit. The list is endless.

If someone with a drug dependence hurts another person while intoxicated then that’s a criminal matter. Part of their sentence would undoubtedly be rehabilitation, as it should.

If someone hurts another person then that’s a criminal matter. Part of their sentence would undoubtedly be rehabilitation.

If someone hurts a spouse or child… etc.

I don’t think singling out one group of criminals for special treatment is the answer.

No one wakes up one day and decides to be an awful human, for sure. It takes time and practise, and people around them ignoring it or even enabling it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The point is to deal with mens issues before they’re hurting others.

Yes there should be other solutions should prevention fail, yet the focus should remain on prevention to minimise harm to the greatest number of people.

Prevention is the best strategy for literally everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or possibly we should focus more on helping the victims and then once they’re properly sorted out we can start looking at how to further assist the perpetrators.

If situations like this, and more generally movements like metoo, have taught us anything it’s that men in positions of power can make it difficult or nigh on impossible for women to be heard. Let’s help them first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Sure, let’s help by drastically reducing the number of victims so we can provide higher quality assistance to those in need.