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I'm gonna be honest, he had some interesting videos at first, but I couldn't freaking stand his voice. Now that his shit has started to become more and more sensationalist and catering to the masses, I'm over it.
lol the down votes. Let's have a discussion? I'm simply voicing an opinion. 😄
Which of his videos do you think are overly sensationalised? You need to follow the whims of the algorithm to some degree to survive, but I think most of his videos are fine, maybe with a slightly clickbaity title or thumbnail, but that's to be expected these days.
Is it clickbaity if he actually does what's in the title?
A lot of them are just goofy and not really as educational as they used to be, in my opinion.
I don't support being click baity for the algorithm. For me it's about the integrity. I won't support it, not from the algorithm nor the creator(s).
Only some creators that I've been with a long time that I know the content is good will I still stay subbed after they turn click baity.
I think you’re seeing NileBlue, which is a lot more casual than the NileRed stuff.
That may be. Still can't stand the voice, so I'm nopeing out regardless. Seems to be a sensitive topic/unpopular opinion, this. lol
It’s not a sensitive topic so much as it’s a little strange (at least to me) that anyone would avoid watching (what I think are) genuinely fascinating experiments (to me, a programmer, not a chemist or scientist) just because of the sound of someone’s voice.
It’s understandable because folks have their own issues with things that get on their nerves. I just think it’s a little unfortunate because he’s got some great videos but to each thier own. I know that as a programmer, I can’t stand the style some other programmers have in their youtube videos so the same could be said about me - too bad since I am probably missing out on some good content but if you can’t enjoy the format, you can’t enjoy the content.
Yeah I mean I fully agree, I might be missing out, but at the same time it's just entertainment in the end. I need to be enjoying it. Anything he puts out, I'm not gonna be utilizing in my daily life, so it's not like it's essential that I watch. Hasn't been so far, probably won't be in the future. So yeah, if I don't enjoy it, for whatever reason, I should stop watching. 🤷♂️ Pretty simple.
People might not agree with the voice but it's my personal gripe I guess.
If you don’t mind me asking, is it the voice (accent, range, smoothness or lack thereof, etc) itself or is it the pattern of pitch he uses when explaining things? I personally have always found that pattern fascinating and wondered why he did it. I’ll try to give an example but it’s going to be over text so let’s say ALLCAPS means higher pitched while ~subscript~ means lower pitch:
“At FIRST I though this might be a PROBLEM but in the end it actually wasn’t a ~big deal~. To BEGIN, I diluted some hydrocloric acid with some distilled WATER and placed it in a ~flask~”
etc..
I found it fascinating because it could just be how he naturally speaks. It could be that he’s trying to be clear and concise and maybe out of habit uses this pattern. Maybe he’s reading off a script and doesn’t realize he’s doing it? Maybe he knows there’s a rythmn to it that keeps the viewer interested..?
For me I find there’s a need to put on something in the background to listen to half-assed while I do other work. NileRed videos work pretty well for this (though I barely understand what’s going on in them) because of this pattern of speaking.
That said I could also see how it could get on people’s nerves.
I don't know, really. Just sounds like he's super nasal and has a cold. Lack of smoothness. Harsh sound. Like the opposite of a radio voice, you could say.
Explosions and Fire is better. Sure he took four years to make the world's shittiest cubane, but his despair is quite entertaining
NurdRage is the best. He's the OG YouTube chemist, and he's actually done some original research in his videos, like pioneering the alcohol-catalyzed magnesium reduction process for making sodium metal. Thanks to him, sodium metal can now be made without a high-temperature electrolysis apparatus.
The alcohol catalized magnesium reduction is an amazing series. I've watched it a bunch of times
My problem with him is that he lacks rigor and his methodology is poor.
Also, from the amount of money he throws around buying equipment, I suspect he has wealthy parents bankrolling him.
Applied Science is a far more interesting youtube channel.
My opinion of course but he's not going for methodology or hard science. He's doing fun chemistry stuff in a way that lets me watch and understand with zero understanding of chemistry.
Sometimes things can be for fun and he doesn't need to get published for turning lunar dust back into swiss cheese.
Depends what you're into. People down voting others for expressing their opinion is just stupid. You're entitled to liking it, we're entitled to not like it. (I'm not saying you're the one who was down voting, of course.)
He's always been transparent about the fact that his parents helped him get started, and he's been financially operating on his own for years. Many of his videos are every bit as rigorous as Applied Science.
Re: transparency about bankrolling, i believe you since you say so. I’ve seen many of his videos and never heard him say so. I guess I just missed the ones where he did, or perhaps he said so on social media.
As for rigor, I can’t count the number of times he uses an unspecified amount of a chemical in a reaction, referring only to “throwing a bunch in.” But again, perhaps I’ve just watched the wrong videos.
His approach seems to me to be very “by guess and by gosh.” Part of that stems from trying to follow poorly written instructions in an academic paper; applied sciences grapples with that too. And some of it may be less slapdash that it appears, with Nilered using a deliberately casual tone in his scripts so that they’re more relatable, knowing that people aren’t likely to use his videos to attempt to reproduce his results. Even taking that into account though, given the number of attempts it often takes him to get the desired result, I doubt his rigor. Props to him for showing the failures and partial successes, though. And whatever else I say about him, I do generally find him entertaining.
You're watching the wrong videos. A lot of his material manufacturing videos tend to have a lot more trial and error. In the more pure chemical extraction or synthesis videos, he's hyper precise about amounts, timing, temperatures, and safety. In others he's definitely in "making a funny video fucking around mode."
No, look back at his older videos when he was working out of the garage. Not rich. Decently off but most of the equipment is donated or paid for with channel income.
It's ok to enjoy many different sources of chemistry content.
If you like rigor and methodology you should check out Explosions and Fire / Extractions and Ire.
Not gonna lie that's the channel I head to when I've run out of Nilered content. Been following his Cubane synthesis for a while now and it's been a crazy ride.