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I recall many times growing up when I felt like my inalienable fundamental human rights were violated in unjust autocratic ways, mostly at school. There was also the time of being a year older than my partner but the potential of ridiculous arbitrary laws having major consequences.

I feel like the age of 18 as some kind of moral benchmark is ridiculous. I feel like it is just tied to the age of conscription. Basing sexual morality on the age when the state can abduct and murder without recourse is nonsense. Most of us likely exist in a duality where we might cringe at "underage" of any kind, but not think twice when a couple of teens are dating and in a physical consensual relationship that is respectful and private.

So from a distant future culture's perspective, like if Star Trek TNG existed in hard SciFi, and there is no need for our present arbitrary policy enforcement, what should be the basis of adolescent autonomous agency?

  1. Maybe it is weening, cultural pressures, and education.

  2. Maybe it is full independence and self sufficiency.

For the record, this is my favored idea as it pressures society to enable a balanced financial early life and opportunities. It also adjusts to account for real world maturity levels. IMO, it is either this or number 1 as these are derived from individual human life phases.

  1. Maybe you think it should be something else?
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think easier access to emancipation would be incredible, when I was a teen in a bad situation I didn't even know it was an option.

Perhaps the frontal lobes aren't developed, but is that really a reasonable argument against freedom of action? Are we saying people who have less intelligence should not be given freedom? Why is the age 18 instead of 25? I think that's a bad argument.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

The frontal lobe isn't "intelligence". It's executive function, or the ability to properly recognize long term consequences.

I'm not sure 18 is the number. You don't need to wait until 25, though. That's "fully developed", not "over the threshold of capable of making responsible decisions". Very few 18 year olds are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It's 18 instead of 25 for the same reason the drinking age being 21 instead of 25 on the same frontal lobe argument

Hard enough to enforce that shit with teenagers, imagine trying to police colleges and the early career landscape for that shit.