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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I apologise if this is the wrong community to post this in, I wasn’t sure which one was ideal.

I’m suffering a difficult decision of choosing between a Framework laptop or a Macbook Air (M1, 2020). I really like the ethical principles of Framework, i.e. you actually own it and can repair it any time, leading to an increased longevity. At the same time, I have heard people claim Macbook is superior in almost all aspects (especially battery life).

I know both Apple and Microsoft are greedy CorpGiants, but seeing as I have an iPhone, I figure it would be easier using a Mac? But then again, the prices really are not worth it, especially considering it costs a lot to repair them. I have 0 experience with Linux, and this computer will be used at school, so I suppose it stands between macOS and Windows.

I guess I just want some advice? Or some guidance and comparisons. Is 8GB enough for a Framework laptop? The 16GB version costs nearly as much as the Mac I’m looking at, hence my hesitance. If anybody has some experience using Framework and / or Macbook, I would love to hear about it. What are some pros and cons? Which people are better off with FW and Mac respectively?

Thank you!

*Edit, forgot to mention: I need a Swedish keyboard on the computer, and Framework apparently only offers English. This is the largest obstacle preventing me from leaning towards FW.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am not very familiar with framework but I did switch from macbooks to a dell gaming laptop years ago and I am so glad I did.

The macs are ridiculously expensive, and even if you break just the charger it costs a lot to replace. My laptop now I was able to get for nearly half the price and it runs games and programs that I used in college better than the mac ever could.

Every mac I ever owned completely died in 4-6 years of purchase. They're basically guaranteed to not last a long time. My guess is you're better off with getting a framework

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of reasons not to like apple products, but the 4-6 years for macbooks is unheard of. There's a reason I was able to sell my 2015 macbook for 60% of its purchase price in 2020. They keep chugging along, built physically strong, with great battery management that means it doesn't degrade much over time. And with launch of apple silicon, the performance of them is even better. They won't game, but for a certain type of person they are a good choice. And for other people they're a bad choice, that they'll make just for the sake of social status or whatever.

  • Not a apple fanboy, see my other comment.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

My experience may be too anecdotal to take into account, so I understand not caring about my specific experience. But I do think it's a good idea to take life span into account, and from a quick google search the average lifespan of a Macbook air is generally 5-7 years (so really not far off).

Just something to consider that since parts aren't replaceable, OP would have to pay the full amount of a new laptop at that time