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You know that remote start is a thing for ICE vehicles too right?
You can, but not in a closed garage. Granted, if you had that the cabin wouldn't be quite as cold.
I mean... just open the garage door when you start the vehicle. It's not like the garage will instantly ice over.
Sure, but if you had the option to do it without opening the garage door wouldn’t you like that more?
Definitely. I was just pointing that out.
It's not really the same. My last car with remote start would only run the car for ten minutes before shutting down, which was hardly enough to warm the engine up on cold days. Meanwhile my EV fully heats the cabin in about 5 minutes and will melt a few inches of snow off the car in ten.
Also, when I run errands I leave the heat/AC on basically the entire time. Can't really do that with an ICE even in places where it's not illegal to idle for extended periods of time.
Those laws stopped like four people. People warm up their ICE cars in the cold. And what kind of remote start shuts off after 10 minutes? I've had a few cars with remote start and never even heard of this. Even if that was the case, set a 10m timer on your phone and restart it.
There are vehicles that have those features. Back before I retired as a medic, the new ambulance we got had that feature from Ford, (Ford makes 90% of all certified ambulance chassis in the US). It was quite disconcerting to hear the engine shutdown and restart by itself.
I was less than impressed by it because of all the electrical devices and lights we constantly run. If it fails to restart and the batteries are dead, someone else might be also.
Yeah but I’ve only seen start ….
I went from a ln ICE car where remote start would have been a subscription item. It only started the engine, although a warm engine is the most important part of heating the car. You had to remember to set everything
My current EV has that included among many features in the app. I can schedule when the car is warm or have dedicated buttons for on and defrost. Clicking on, I have complete control over every part of the heating system, including which seats to heat.
For me it’s a much better experience, although admittedly because the car is more computerized and the manufacturer is not trying to nickel and dime me with subscriptions, and could happen in an ICE car
I'm not sure what that has to do with one car being ice and the other electric though
Exhaust fumes. Remote heating an ICE requires starting the engine, which is a dangerous thing to do unsupervised particularly when many cars are stored in garages attached to homes.
While that's true (you'd have to open the garage door with the rear facing out minimum) that's not what we're talking about in this corner of the thread. The person I'm replying to is bringing up subscription models for some reason? I'm asking what do subscription models have to do with whether a car is ice or ev?
Probably because ICE cars can't heat when scheduled because they can kill you while EV can heat on schedule.
They brought up how the feature is a subscription to their displeasure but ICE app integration would likely also be a subscription.