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No water for like 3 days to get that look (lemmy.world)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2487503/the-witcher-henry-cavill-had-a-miserable-dehydration-diet-to-look-ripped-shirtless

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[–] [email protected] 217 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is not a zero sum game. there's no competition. We can deal with both problems, we don't have to pick a side.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well yes, and the starting point is by dismissing the myth that the double standards are not applied to everyone. They are applied differently, but it is not something that only affects one group of people.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Is that really a myth? Because it feels like the only time this point is brought up is to "dispel the myth", not the myth itself which I frankly can't recall having ever heard.

My theory is that it's actually a mix of angry dudes feeling excluded because they weren't explicitly included by women talking about their own struggles, and of the fact that men just generally don't talk about their struggles. So the coverage feels disproportional and the only time the subject gets brought up it's because some angry misogynist managed to weave it into an "us vs them" discourse.

Men's mental health is a huge conversation to have but it's extremely disheartening that in the mainstream conversation it always pops up through misogyny.
So in the spirit of actually doing something about men's mental health, here's some actual discourse on the subject

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy needs an r/menslib equivalent

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why did this get immediately downvoted, lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because it starts by making an assumption about men when they want to talk about their mental health... sounds a tad sexist to me tbh.

My theory is that it’s actually a mix of angry dudes feeling excluded because they weren’t explicitly included by women talking about their own struggles

Ah yes, that explains it, just a mix of "angry dudes" who feel "excluded". Right... maybe they are just men who care about men's health? Maybe it's just men who think, "Oh, yeah, I see this body issue, actually I can relate because TV also set unrealistic expectations for me"....

But no, it's the angry dudes, the sad dudes, trying to steal spotlight from women... -.-

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think you got something wrong here. The comment talks about the "angry dudes" complaining that women would think men didn't have this struggle. See very first statement in the meme. It's about the myth not the real problem itself.

Whereas people actually participating in the discourse know very well those double standards apply to everyone.