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but at what cost!

If you don't think that people owning the results of their labor is morally correct, then what else is there to say about you.

Uh yeah, and we're completely and utterly unapologetic about it because it's the morally correct position.

The article mostly talks about using AI for the maintenance of the infrastructure, and detecting potential problems before they happen.

The government in USSR very much represented the working class. Maybe actually spend a bit of time learning about USSR instead of regurgitating propaganda points you've memorized?

edit: I love how mad libs of lemmy get when faced with basic historical facts

And a relevant passage from This Soviet World by Anna Louise Strong

Are you disputing the factual basis of the article or just attacking the source?

And I'm saying that China objectively does not suck. China has been consistently improving lives of over a billion people, it's been a positive force globally helping countries develop and build infrastructure instead of bombing them, and they're actually doing something tangible to transition from using fossil fuel energy. China might have problems, but overall it's a well functioning society where most people live happy lives, and see their prospects improving each and every year.

China set to miss climate targets by 2025

And if it does, it's still doing vastly better than pretty much every major western country. The trajectory in China is pretty clear at this point.

Here’s China giving the death penalty to a pro-democracy blogger:

The west is literally torturing Assange in solitary right now for revealing US war crimes. There's a pretty long list of dissidents who have been killed and tortured by western countries. Not to mention all the horrors the west commits around the world with constant wars, regime change operations, coups, death squads, slave labor, and so on. China does none of these things last I checked.

A country who refuses to reveal how many people the execute but is estimated thousands per year per Amnesty International, a organization you assert to be biased with absolutely no proof whatsoever. If that number is false, why wouldn’t China release the numbers?

There's plenty of proof that Amnesty International is biased af. If China doesn't release the numbers where did Amnesty International get them. This is literally a case of trust me bro.

But to hold up China as a paragon of virtue, given their history of censorship, brutality, and lack of transparency seems particularly heinous to me.

Nobody is holding China up as a paragon of virtue. What's actually being said is that it's doing a much better job than the west in terms of improving lives of the people in the country and dealing with big problems like climate change. Every country has problems, every human society has problems. However, some societies consistently produce better outcomes for the majority than others.

yeah a totally unbiased organization 😂

What I've got are basic facts of the situation.

Accusations originate entirely from the west while Muslim majority countries support China, and their leaders have visited Xinjiang many times.

• https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/on-eid-xinjiang-imams-defend-china-against-u-s-criticism-1.5425967
• https://www.bolnews.com/latest/2023/07/pak-religious-leaders-nurture-bonds-of-cooperation-with-xinjiang/
• https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/islamic-envoys-say-china-is-protecting-minorities-in-xinjiang-after-five-day-visit

Here's an account from a Pakistani journalist who has been all over Xinjiang (which borders Pakistan) claims that western media reports on "atrocities" are lies. https://dailytimes.com.pk/723317/exposing-the-occidents-baseless-lies-about-xinjiang/

Also notable that whenever western media actually deigns to visit Xinjiang, which is not often, they're unable to produce support for any of their claims of mass imprisonment and oppression, so they opt for insinuations instead https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-china-health-travel-7a6967f335f97ca868cc618ea84b98b9

Meanwhile, there is a political angle around the narrative around Xinjiang. For example, here's George Bush's chief of staff openly saying that US wants to destabilize the region, and NED recently admitting to funding Uyghur separatism for the past 16 years on their own official Twitter page. An ex-CIA operative details US operations radicalizing and training terrorists in the region in this book. Here's an excerpt:

US has been stoking terrorism in the region while they've been running a propaganda campaign against China in the west. In fact, US even classified Uyghur separatists as a terrorist group at one point https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-was-at-war-uyghur-terrorists-now-claims-etim-doesnt-exist/276916/

Now, let's look at what's actually happening with renewables and energy transition in China.

Emissions in China have now entered structural decline

• https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/13/chinas-carbon-emissions-set-for-structural-decline-from-next-year
• https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-chinas-emissions-set-to-fall-in-2024-after-record-growth-in-clean-energy/

Clean energy was top driver of China’s economic growth in 2023 https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-clean-energy-was-top-driver-of-chinas-economic-growth-in-2023/

China has an actual plan for phasing out fossil fuel usage that they are implementing, short term use of coal is in line with that plan, pretending that this is some gotcha is either ignorant or dishonest https://www.visualcapitalist.com/chinas-energy-transition-in-5-charts/

Here's a study showing that coal use in China is in line with their transition plan https://www.carbonbrief.org/chinas-2060-climate-pledge-is-largely-consistent-with-1-5c-goal-study-finds

I love how you lot just peddle the same shit that's been debunked to death, really gotta get some new material