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[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago

Thanks for trying it out! Both the inpainting and outpainting -- the expansion -- worked better than I'd expected, though I dunno if that's exactly what M0oP0o's after.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Lots of odd artifacting, slow creation time and yes it had some issues with sailormoon.

It probably isn't worth the effort for most things, but one option might also be -- and I'm not saying that this will work well, but a thought -- using both. That is, if Bing Image Creator can generate images with content that you want but gets some details wrong and can't do inpainting, but Midjourney can do inpainting, it might be possible to take a Bing-generated image that's 90% of what you want and then inpaint the particular detail at issue using Midjourney. The inpainting will use the surrounding image as an input, so it should tend to try to generate similar image.

I'd guess that the problem is that an image generated with one model probably isn't going to be terribly stable in another model -- like, it probably won't converge on exactly the same thing -- but it might be that surrounding content is enough to hint it to do the right thing, if there's enough of that context.

I mean, that's basically -- for a limited case -- how AI upscaling works. It gets an image that the model didn't generate, and then it tries to generate a new image, albeit with only slight "pressure" to modify rather than retain the existing image.

It might produce total garbage, too, but might be worth an experiment.

What I'd probably try to do if I were doing this locally is to feed my starting image into the thing to generate prompt terms that my local model can use to generate a similar-looking image, and include those when doing inpainting, since those prompt terms will be adapted to trying to create a reasonably-similar image using the different model. On Automatic1111, there's an extension called Clip Interrogator that can do this ("image to text").

Searching online, it looks like Midjourney has similar functionality, the /describe command.

https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/describe

It's not magic -- I mean, end of the day, the model can only do what it's been trained on -- but I've found that to be helpful locally, since I'd bet that Bing and Midjourney expect different prompt terms for a given image.

Oh I also tried local generation (forgot the name) and wooooow is my local PC bad at pictures (clearly can’t be my lack of ability it setting it up).

Hmm. Well, that I've done. Like, was the problem that it was slow? I can believe it, but just as a sanity check, if you run on a CPU, pretty much everything is mind-bogglingly slow. Do you know if you were running it on a GPU, and if so, how much VRAM it has? And what you were using (like, Stable Diffusion 1.5, Stable Diffusion XL, Flux, etc?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

@[email protected], as far as I can tell, you always use Bing Image Creator.

And as far as I can tell, @[email protected] always uses Midjourney.

I don't use either. But as far as I know, neither service currently charges for generation of images. I don't know if there's some sort of different rate-limit that favors one over the other, or another reason to use Bing (perhaps Midjourney's model is intentionally not trained on Sailor Moon?), but I do believe that Midjourney can do a few things that Bing doesn't.

One of those is inpainting. Inpainting, for those who haven't used it, lets one start with an existing image, create a mask that specifies that only part of the image should be regenerated, and then regenerate that part of the image using a specified prompt (which might differ from the prompt used to generate the image as a whole). I know that Thelsim's used this feature before with Midjourney, because she once used it to update an image with some sort of poison witch image with hands over a green glowing pot, so I'm pretty sure that it's available to Midjourney general users.

I know that you recently expressed frustration with Bing's Image Creator's current functionality, wanted more.

Inpainting's time-consuming, but it can let a lot of images be rescued, rather than having to just re-reroll the whole image. Have you tried using Midjourney? Was there anything there that you found made it not acceptable?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Back under Boris Johnson, Dominic Cummings was a very vocal advocate of the UK setting up something similar (though he referenced ARPA, DARPA's predecessor, which wasn't explicitly-military).

The result of that was ARIA being set up last year.

He was also very interested in advanced artificial intelligence work, so I kind of imagine that funding that was a goal.

https://www.aria.org.uk/

I don't know if all their work is public, but looking at that website, it looks like they're publicly working on:

  • Genetic engineering of plants

  • Robot dexterity

  • Analysis of "tipping points" caused by climate change

  • Safeguarded AI research (how to "contain" advanced artificial intelligences)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

it's just ComfyUI behaving this way. Nothing is loaded, no LLMs

Oh, okay, then I'm probably wrong on VRAM, then. On my system, it needs to actually run the nodes before the VRAM gets allocated. Sorry! I thought I had it...

 

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just realized that I was dyslexic with the ordering directive, which worked well with Flux apparently not understanding it, since I wound up with the desired ordering; I'd intended to write "left to right".

 

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not yet! One thing that AI generated images right now are not so good at is maintaining a consistent portrayal of a character from image to image, which is something you want for illustrating a story.

You might be able to do something like that with a 3d modeler to pose characters, generate a wireframe, and then feed that wireframe into ControlNet. Or if you have a huge corpus of existing images of a particular character portrayed in a particular way, you could maybe create new images with them in new situations. But without that, it's hard to go from a text description to many images portrayed in a consistent way. For one image, it works, and for some things, that's fine. But you'd have a hard time doing, say, a graphic novel that way.

I suspect that doing something like that is going to require having models that are actually working with 3D internal representations of the world, rather than 2D, at a bare minimum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

it starts flipping frames between the nodes and a different set of nodes.

Yeah, I don't know what would cause that. I use it in Firefox.

Maybe try opening it in Chromium or a private window to disable addons (if you have your Firefox install set up not to run addons in private windows?)

I'm still suspicious of resource consumption, either RAM or VRAM. I don't see another reason that you'd suddenly smack into problems when running ComfyUI.

I'm currently running ComfyUI and Firefox and some relatively-light other stuff, and I'm at 23GB RAM used (by processes, not disk caching), so I wouldn't expect that you'd be running into trouble on memory unless you've got some other hefty stuff going on. I run it on a 128GB RAM, 128GB paging NVMe machine, so I've got headroom, but I don't think that you'd need more than what you're running if you're generating stuff on the order of what I am.

goes investigating

Hmm. Currently all of my video memory (24GB) is being used, but I'm assuming that that's because Wayland is caching data or something there. I'm pretty sure that I remember having a lot of free VRAM at some point, though maybe that was in X.

considers

Let me kill off ComfyUI and see how much that frees up. Operating on the assumption that nothing immediately re-grabs the memory, that'd presumably give a ballpark for VRAM consumption.

tries

Hmm. That went down to 1GB for non-ComfyUI stuff like Wayland, so ComfyUI was eating all of that.

I don't know. Maybe it caches something.

experiments further

About 17GB (this number and others not excluding the 1GB for other stuff) while running, down to 15GB after the pass is complete. That was for a 1280x720 image, and I was loading the SwinIR upscaler; while not used, it might be resident in VRAM.

goes to set up a workflow without the upscaler to generate a 512x512 image

Hmm. 21GB while running. I'd guess that ComfyUI might be doing something to try to make use of all free VRAM, like, do more parallel processing.

Lemme try with a Stable Diffusion-based model (Realmixxl) instead of the Flux-based Newreality.

tries

About 10GB. Hmm.

kagis

https://old.reddit.com/r/comfyui/comments/1adhqgy/how_to_run_comfyui_with_mid_vram/

It sounds like ComfyUI also supports the --midvram and --lowvram flags, but that it's supposed to automatically select something reasonable based on your system. I dunno, haven't played with that myself.

tries --lowvram

I peak at about 14GB for ComfyUI at 512x512, was 13GB for most of generation.

tries 1280x720

Up to 15.7GB, down to 13.9GB after generation. No upscaling, just Newreality.

Hmm. So, based on that testing, I wouldn't be incredibly surprised if you might be exhausting your VRAM if you're running Flux on a GPU with 12GB. I'm guessing that it might be running dry on cards below 16GB (keeping in mind that it looks like other stuff is consuming about 1GB for me). I don't think I have a way to simulate running the card with less VRAM than it physically has to see what happens.

Keep in mind that I have no idea what kind of memory management is going on here. It could be that pytorch purges stuff if it's running low and doesn't actually need that much, so these numbers are too conservative. Or it could be that you really do need that much.

Here's a workflow (it generates a landscape painting, something I did a while back) using a Stable Diffusion XL-based model, Realmixxl (note: model and webpage includes NSFW content), which ran with what looked like maximum VRAM usage of about 10GB on my system using the attached workflow prompt/settings. You don't have to use Realmixxl, if you have another model, should be able to just choose that other one. But maybe try running it, see if those problems go away? Because if that works without issues, that'd make me suspicious that you're running dry on VRAM.

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EDIT: Keep in mind that I'm not an expert on resource consumption on this, haven't read material about what requirements are, and there may be good material out there covering it. This is my ad-hoc, five-minutes-or-so-of testing; my own solution was mostly to just throw hardware at the problem, so I haven't spent a lot of time optimizing workflows for VRAM consumption.

EDIT2: Some of the systems (Automatic1111 I know, dunno about ComfyUI) are also capable, IIRC, of running at reduced precision, which can reduce VRAM usage on some GPUs (though it will affect the output slightly, won't perfectly reproduce a workflow), so I'm not saying that the numbers I give are hard lower limits; might be possible to configure a system to operate with less VRAM in some other ways. Like I said, I haven't spent a lot of time trying to drive down ComfyUI VRAM usage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Are there any specifics as to what the major disagreement was on, or has been in the past? All the article has is:

The coalition leaders meeting was widely reported as a "make or break" meeting for the coalition, with Lindner, in particular, having hinted in the run-up that he was not too worried about the latter.

In his reaction to Scholz's scathing remarks, Lindner accused the chancellor of a "calaculated break-up of the coalition" and his coaliton partners of "not even accepting" the FDP's proposals for turning the economy around "as a basis for discussion". Discord about how to revive an ailing economy

The coalition had been at odds for a while, with serious strains on the budget for 2025 and a disappointing performance by the German economy eliciting increasingly different suggestions on how to face and solve the problems.

So I'm assuming that Lindner wants more-economically-liberal policy than Scholz does?

Is there reason to believe that there's sufficient public support in elections to form a red-green coalition, or is it likely that the SDP and Greens would be out of government in a new election?

kagis

https://theweek.com/politics/german-economy-crisis-volkswagen

A snap election could be "disastrous for all three coalition parties," said Reuters. SDP and the Greens have lost support since the 2021 election, and the FDP "could be ejected from parliament altogether." But the dispute involves fundamental differences: FDP wants budget cuts, while the other two parties "agree that targeted government spending is needed to stimulate the economy," Reuters said.

That doesn't sound very good for them.

If they're out, and the AfD has been at record-high levels of support, does that mean maybe an incoming AfD government?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

When a model is initially being loaded, I see slowdown, but once that has happened, I don't. I see that with Automatic1111 as well. Once it's been loaded, though, I don't get that. I regularly do (non-GPU-using) stuff on another workspace when rendering, can't detect any slowdown.

So I don't know what might be the cause. Maybe memory exhaustion? A system that's paging like mad might do that, I guess.

As to an alternative, it depends on what you want to do.

If you've never done local GPU-based image generation, then Automatic1111 is probably the most-widely-used UI (albeit the oldest).

If you want to run Flux and Flux-derived models -- which I'm using to generate my above image -- I believe I recall reading that while Automatic1111 cannot run them -- and maybe that's changed, have not been monitoring the situation -- the Forge UI can do so as well. But I've never used it, so I can't provide any real guidance as to setup.

kagis

Yeah, looks like Automatic1111 can't do Flux:

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/issues/16311

And it looks like Forge can indeed run Flux:

https://sandner.art/flux1-in-forge-ui-setup-guide-with-sdsdxl-tips/

If you're short of VRAM or RAM or something, though, I don't know if Forge will do better than ComfyUI. I think that I might at least try to diagnose what is causing the issue first, as there are some things that can be done to reduce resource usage, like generating images at lower resolution and relying more-heavily on tile-based upscaling. With at least some of the systems, haven't played around with ComfyUI here, there are also some command-line options to reduce VRAM usage in exchange for longer compute time, like --medvram or --lowvram in Automatic1111.

I don't think that there's a platform-agnostic way to see VRAM usage. I use a Radeon card on Linux, and there, the radeontop command will show VRAM usage. But I don't know what tools one would use in, say, Windows to look up the same numbers.

On Linux, top will show regular memory usage, can hit "M" to sort by memory usage. I'm pretty out of date in Windows or MacOS -- probably Task Manager or mmc on Windows and maybe top on MacOS as well? You may know better then me if you're accustomed to that platform.

I can maybe try to give some better suggestions if you can list any of the OS being used, what GPU you're running it on, and if you can, how much VRAM and RAM is on the system and if you can determine how much is being used.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I called Hillary "Hillary", but that's to distinguish her from Bill Clinton, who I called "Clinton".

Honestly, you have to be a very commonly-used name before I'm going to use a single name for general purposes at all rather than a full name, so the set of people who have the chance to get into the "one name club" is very small.

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There are various meats on display in the window.

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The theme is horror.

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UI: ComfyUI

Model: STOIQNewrealityFLUXSD_F1DAlpha

A stylized vector illustration of a small 1940s fishing boat at sea in a tempest.

The image is minimalist.

The image is at night, with moonlight shining on the waves.

There are many clouds and heavy rain. There are large waves. The image is dark and shadowed.

The cabin of the boat is illuminated with a buttery yellow light.

There are shark fins in the water.

The theme is horror.

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ComfyUI is a locally-run UI (i.e. you need to have a beefy local GPU) that's generally more-complicated to learn than the older, more-common Automatic1111. However, it works kind of like some professional image-processing software does, lets you create a directed acyclic graph, lets one build up complicated workflows using those. It's also got some nice features, like the ability to queue up multiple requests (though it's not the only UI to do this, it's kind of a glaring limitation in Automatic1111). ComfyUI also caches what it has generated while traversing the DAG, and only regenerates what data is necessary. It's also capable of doing Flux, which Automatic1111 is not, and while Flux is not today a full replacement for everything I have done with Stable Diffusion, it can do a lot and has a far better ability to understand natural-language descriptions of scenes and less propensity to generate mangled images. As a result, I generally use ComfyUI rather than Automatic1111 now; it's a more "serious" tool for building up complex stuff.

Automatic1111 mostly consists of a positive prompt, a negative prompt, and maybe fields for any plugins you've installed. There are entirely-decoupled features for generating an image from text (txt2img) and processing existing images (img2img). Since often one may want to generate an image and then process it, this makes image generation a multi-stage process, which requires a lot of manual involvement.

In Automatic1111, some information about how to generate the image is displayed beneath the image. You can copy this from the Web UI. It'll contain the prompt text and -- I think -- all of the settings in the txt2img panel, at least as long as any plugins used properly implement this feature. So you can let someone else see what you did and recreate the image by posting the text there, post the "source code" of your image; when I post an image generated in Automatic1111, I paste this text beneath the image. It contains stuff like the scheduler used, how many iterations were run, and so forth.

However:

  • It doesn't contain system settings, some of which are necessary to recreate the image.

  • Running txt2img and img2img are two different steps. So, for example, if you want to generate an image in txt2img at a lower resolution, then take the resulting image and upscale it in img2img using the SD Ultimate Upscale plugin -- something that I generally do -- then these are two different operations.

  • While it's nice that it's human-readable, It's not machine-readable. Someone else can't just paste the text into their Automatic1111 setup and have it import those settings. They need to manually enter it.

In contrast, ComfyUI lets someone save their entire DAG workflow by just clicking "save". It'll generate a JSON file that anyone else can open and use (and tweak, if they want). This is much, much nicer in my book, since it lets me share the "source code" to my images with other users in a way that's trivial for them to import.

Both Automatic1111 and ComfyUI attach their text to the image in EXIF tags and indicate that the image is AI-generated (probably good practice to help avoid polluting later training data). On Linux, I can use ImageMagick, for example, to see this, run $ identify -verbose image.png. Unfortunately, Lemmy or Pictrs or whatever the image-posting functionality is for Lemmy instances, appears to strip EXIF data out of posted images, maybe to keep people from inadvertently doxxing themselves, as some cameras attach GPS EXIF data. People have inadvertently doxxed themselves in the past on Reddit and probably other platforms. So end users here don't get to actually see the embedded source to generated images, even though both Automatic1111 and ComfyUI do their best to include it. While I don't post images on civitai.com, I suspect that the way they get all of their image metadata is by inspecting that EXIF data about the generation process from posted generated images...but that's not an option here.

I've generally tried to just manually post it, which I think is good practice.

For posting ComfyUI JSON workflows, there are two issues.

  • First, compared to the text that Automatic1111 provides, the JSON is quite verbose. It's pretty-printed, which makes it easier to read, but even longer. Trying to post it verbatim in the text after each image would take up a great amount of screen space for users here.

  • Second, while it's readable, most of what an end user is probably often interested in is just what the prompt and maybe the model used is. Digging through a lot of JSON for that is a pain -- it's readable, but certainly not as much as Automatic1111's summary.

What I've settled on -- and what I think is a good convention, if you're using ComfyUI and want to share the "source code" to your image -- is to post the model name and prompt manually beneath the image, since this lets someone just skimming the image quickly see and understand the basic settings used to generate the image.

I then also save the workflow from ComfyUI and generate a compressed, Base64-encoded version of that text, and attach it in spoiler tags. Lemmy, mbin, and AFAIK piefed and sublinks do not have the ability to do file attachments to posts, so this is probably the closest analog presently available to embed a small file in a post.

I use xz (which does LZMA compression), as it's an open-source compressor widely-available on Linux systems; LZMA is one of the "tightest" of the mainstream compression mechanisms. While it's far from the fastest, the workflow files are tiny, so speed does not matter.

That generates binary output, which cannot be posted. I then Base64-encode them, which generates a text string using characters that can be posted here. Various mechanisms have been used for this on Usenet in the past, including uuencode and yEnc, so making use of that existing work makes sense. I think that Base64, while not as compact as yenc, is the most-widely-used today, and I know that the restrictive character set used doesn't smack into any Markdown encoding issues, so went with that.

I've written a shell script that can do this automatically for other folks using Linux. This will take an existing workflow file, xz-compress it, Base64-encode it, prefix each line with four spaces so that the text is displayed literally by Markdown and not wrapped at each line, and then wraps the text in spoiler tags, so that in the Lemmy Web UI and any other clients that support it, the text is collapsed by default, as well as labeling the text with the filename. If anyone else is interested:

mylemmybinaryencode.sh#!/bin/bash

# Encode a file such that it can be pasted into a Lemmy markdown comment.
# Depends on coreutils, sed, and xz-utils.
# Usage: mylemmybinaryencode.sh <filename>

filename="$@"

echo "
spoiler $filename.xz.base64" xz <"$filename"|base64 -|sed "s/^/ /" echo ":::"

:::

Or, packed by itself:

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On Debian-family Linux systems (most, these days), you'll need to have the xz-utils, sed, and coreutils packages installed. I suspect that pretty much all Linux systems out there already have these pre-installed, as they're very common utilties.

To decode such a file, one can do:

$ base64 -d <filename.xz.base64 | xz -d >filename

I'm sure that there are utilities on other platforms that can also handle Base64 and xz-compressed data (I've several other packages installed on my own), but that uses probably the most-widely-available utilities to do so.

Just wanted to provide at least what I do when posting images, and explain why.

 

UI: ComfyUI

Model: STOIQNewrealityFLUXSD_F1DAlpha

An image divided into five seamless sections showing a progression from left to right.

The image is a 1930s illustration.

Each section shows the character facing rightwards.

The first section shows a boy with short, straight, blond hair and formal, masculine clothes.

The rightmost section shows a girl with long, curly, red hair and casual, feminine clothes.

There are arrows between each section showing the direction of progression.

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Help has arrived (lemmy.today)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

UI: ComfyUI

Model: STOIQNewrealityFLUXSD_F1DAlpha

A scan of a comic book page by Neal Adams.

The image is divided into two panels.

The first panel shows Sailor Moon saying "I'm here to help!"

The second panel shows an exasperated Batman facepalming.

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Cats (lemmy.today)
 

UI: ComfyUI

Model: STOIQNewrealityFLUXSD_F1DAlpha

A huge, dangerous black jaguar lying next to a relaxed, white long-haired Angora cat. In the background is a blazing fireplace. The floor is black cherry.

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