Tartas1995

So just to get you straight, you make fun of men for being upset at the "meme" for push gender war non sense. When I critic you over you also push gender war non sense, you tell me that it isn't about the popular vote and when I point out that the exit polls are effectively popular votes. And ask, why aren't you talking about the popular vote of white woman but focus on men? Pointing out your gender war non sense, your defence is "I just engage in gender war non sense of the meme and push those ideas". Okay

How do they know that men voted for trump?

Exit polls.

https://www.statista.com/chart/33408/female-male-us-voters-exit-polls/

Didn't catch that sorry.

You tell me as a response of me calling out gender war. Good one.

Then why are you talking about the popular vote of men then? Weird double standard there.

And I am not talking about a "similar" demographic because you miss the point. Why do you focus on men? Why not on white women? Why not on the general population?

I would rather kill myself than vote for trump, who is a sexist, racist and fascist.

And I am with you. The boarder left is in denial that they are alienating especially young men with that behavior.

You are aware that 52% of white women voted for trump and that he won the popular vote by nearly 5 million votes (72,656,451 for trump, 67,978,280 for Harris) between both that is 140,634,731 votes. So 1% would be 1406347.31. so trump won by about 3% popular vote.

Blaming specifically men and exclusively, is what pisses them off.

America is sexist and racist.

52% of white women voted for trump.

Chances are that many of the people crying about men voting trump, are part of a demographic that mostly voted trump.

Trump apparently won the popular vote anyway. Most of everyone who voted, voted trump. But let's focus on men and then be surprised that young men who are very insecure about themselves anyway, feel attacked by the left and choose the right.

I really understand you and given your personal experience (and pain), your reaction might be a bit too confrontational but certainly understandable. I am sorry if I said anything that opened old wounds in you.

I obviously think accepting oneself is very important. I would be never deny the possibility of they being trans. I wasn't and aren't aware how often "femboy" is a expression of denialism, or if I misunderstood you, the more appropriate term. Thanks for clueing me in.

That being said, I don't think I denied the possibility of him being trans but argued for accepting them in public discours however they identify. That doesn't mean you can talk about the general tendency of closeted trans women in regards of being femboys in public. But maybe not about specific people. I am not affected and can't tell, but I am really scared that arguing in public without the required context could be a way to unintentionally teach harmful behavior to people, naming publicly doubting and creating a somewhat hostile environment. I am cis straight but it doesn't take me much empathy to find tears for the pain in the heart of the people we talk about. I just wanna less their pain and maybe that leads on the long term wrong path.

I wanna tell you good bye and hope to read you here again. I wish you happiness. Take care, sister.

I am happy that you care but you realize that I didn't express that he shouldn't get hrt. The person expressed that they are one and in public discours it is good to accept them like that. If the discussion would be about hrt, I would see where you are coming from to express your assumption but in this case, it is just not really accepting them. It is "I know better, you trans" over a concern that is in the context not expressed and visible.

Remember that trans people and "femboys" might read this and your words to me, a cis man, could impact them, that is why I am insist on calling him what he expressed, fictional or not.

Your concern is accepting and welcoming and trans people probably appreciate your concern and a "femboy" might understand you and accept that it isn't a dismissal of him but a accepting of a trans person. But unstated, it will be read differently.

Take care.

I understood and I agreed with you. I just wanted to point out that it is actually even worse...

But you are right

He is what he says he is. Please be accepting.