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So we kill open source models, and proprietary data models like adobe are fine, so they can be the only resource and continue rent seeking while independent artists can eat dirt.

Whether or not the model learned from my art is probably not going to affect me in any way shape or form, unless I'm worried about being used as a prompt so people could use me as a compass while directing their new image aesthetic. Disney/warner could already hire someone to do that 100% legally, so it's just the other peasants im worried about. I don't think the peasants are the problem when it comes to the wellbeing and support of artists

I mean, chess is already obsolete, but it's also more popular than ever.

To me there is extreme value in being able to choose your endeavor vs being forced into something agonizing just to survive.

When everything is obsolete, people can create entire worlds and experiences using AI for themselves and for others who may care to experience it.

The threat of needing to find something to do is one of the most frustratingly privileged concepts.

I don't need anything to do. I just want to be alive without also being exhausted, in pain, and chastised by customers despite working my hardest.

I'd rather the struggle of finding an activity over worrying about whichever coworker is crying in the walk-in because just surviving requires more from them than they are capable of.

Being obsoleted is fine by me, as long as we have the power redistribution necessary to keep people alive and happy.

When they switched the window exiting x button on the "upgrade to windows ten!" Notification to accept the installation rather than just exit the notification.

I'd been exiting that window every day to set up our work computers, as our point of sales solution didn't support the newer version of windows.

My horror when our shop doors open and the screen turns to "updating to windows 10"

We basically lost a day of sales since we had to do thing sans POS.

When I told the owner that I definitely didn't accept the installation, he called Microsoft which told him I must have accepted the installation.

Yes there are different types of art. Yes some are impressive for technical skill in a specific medium. Traditional Hyper-Realism or corporate artists are good examples. Sandcastle art is cool too.

I don't think these things will lose their unique value, but they are similarly not arguments against photography, film,digital art, etc for the things that give them their unique value. I think that also applies to AI mediums.

Nuance in everything.

The AI in that song is just used as a tool to emulate the sound of drake's voice. The rest is standard artist composition.

While I don't particularly care for the song, comparing it to doping is not reasonable.

Same with all AI art tools. Actual artists can make reasonable use of these tools to more efficiently convey what they had wanted to convey.

This is just like when cameras were invented. Or people started using digital mediums. Or when people started making 3D art.

Even simple prompt only stuff like midjourney is improving to allow artists more control over the image they are trying to create.

If we end up with a holo-deck style experience where artists can craft entire worlds and details through gesture and dictation as a form of expression, is that still not art?

We going to do an article every time someone uses a loom to make clothing?

The issue is that art currently relies on the whims of people who control the money.

We need a new socioeconomic system with a more fair wealth distribution, so common people can afford choose to support artists that they want to support.

i hate giving anecdotal evidence, but i wasn't expecting it to be such a black and white change for me personally.

i can draw a clear line between the previous twenty years of my life, and a few years ago.

it's just weirdly amazing to able to have a small thing go wrong and just be like "ah dangit." rather than having a depressive spiral and mourning my own existence for the rest of the day.

not that i don't sometimes have pessimistic thoughts or bad days, it's just not overwhelmingly defining of my every moment.

at the very least, i'm eager to see a lot more research being done. if it is legitimate, and others can have the same change in life experience that i've had, then it's a damn tragedy it hasn't been studied more thoroughly ages ago.

artist here. nobody is thinking about AI as a tool being used.. by artists.

the pareidolia aspect of diffusion specifically does a great job of mimicking the way artists conceptualize an image. it's not 1 to 1, but to say the models are stealing from the data they were trained on is definitely as silly as claiming an artist was stealing every time they admired or incorporated aspects of other people's art into their own.

i'm also all for opensource and publicly available models. if independent artists lose that tool, they will be competing with large corps who can buy all the data they need, and hold exclusive proprietary models while independent artists get nothing.

ultimately this tech is leading to a holo-deck style of creation, where you can define you vision through direction and language rather than through hands that you've already destroyed practicing linework for decades. or through hunting down the right place for a photograph. or having a beach not wash your sandcastle away with the tide.

there are many aspects to art and creation. A.I. is one more avenue, and it's a good one. as long as we don't make it impossible to use without subscribing to the landlords of art tools.

Humanity is already plunging into dystopia without AI. Changing A.I. Doesn't matter as much as changing our economic system, and flaunting of wealth and power to ensure it only gets worse. A.I. Just makes it more immediate and obvious.

I'm just glad for some positive results training ai on ai content. I assume theres still a lot of ways we can improve or adjust large bodies of data with AI.

I've been ranting about this since 2016.

Having consumer trust in developing AI vehicles is hard enough without this asshole's ego and lies muddying the water.

Can someone be sacked for these stupid fear mongering presentations of what should be fairly banal topics? If there was actual reason to worry, we would point out the constant remarkable disasters which should discourage you.