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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes" - Chai Ling

But they didn't get it, so they had to exaggerate armed skirmishes into "they machinegunned sitting student protestors"

It can’t be the “Tiananmen Square Massacre” for you because then couldn’t draw in PLA members who had heart attacks and died elsewhere that day because they weren’t at the square.

You can literally find photos of protestors posing with burnt and mutilated bodies of PLA soldiers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Oh fuck he is trying to make me say "tiananmen square massacre" now Xi is going to personally come to my house and eat all my grain with his giant spoon.

Or maybe I say June 4th incident because it didn't happen in tiananmen square and massacre isn't the right word for it, considering it was armed PLA vs western armed protestors with around equal casualties before it ended.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (6 children)

The June 4th incident is what it is called in mainland China.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (8 children)

There are a lot of western narratives about the June 4th incident that are atrocity propaganda contradicted by western reporting at the time of the incident

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

China hosted one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The point is that there is a universalizing here of something that isn't universal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Idk I crush on a lot of folks, I'm also in a long term (polyam) relationship.

Whether or not rejection is a part of life or healthy in the long term it is going to be bad while you’re experiencing it

Why?

when seeing the object of your affection with someone else could arguably be unbecoming since you’ll want the best for them but it’s about ad human as it gets.

I tend to feel compersion over envy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Neither is bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But instead we are arguing the semantics over whether a man should take responsibilty for his own bigotry or whether the entire global leftist project should bear that burden for him.

I'm not having that argument? I am sort of confused as to why you think I'm making that argument?

I think you're continuing to read me as appealing to pragmatism when I am instead appealing to learning from people who he respects on why he is personally wrong on the issue.

I would once again ask you, what specifically do you want to happen? If you're having a hard time articulating it, I would suggest looking at the constructive criticism handbook. https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-3/constructive-criticism.html?ref=redstarcaucus.org

Man is a person. He answers to a community. He’s not actually a party official of the revolutionary guard and you and I are allowed to demand better.

Demand better from him than providing free gender affirming care and legalizing gay marriage, affirming other alt family structures, proactively having a country do pro-lgbt education to root out cultural bigotry like in Cuba? I'm am somewhat confused by this statement? What does demanding better here look like?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There can be no allyship with someone who understands our experience purely through the lens of political opportunism.

Do you think all pro-lgbt measures done in socialist states to be about political opportunism? Because in Cuba it took a multi-decade effort while struggling against the influence of the catholic church and colonial-legacy machismo culture to expand lgbt rights to the point that they're better than the US

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I'm saying his heart is in the right place but he has wrong-headed ideas. Given the guy follows a socialist intellectual tradition it is reasonable that you suggest he gets his head in the right place by understanding socialist social practice on the issue.

 

Why was it there in the first place I wonder?

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