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I could not disagree more. There's a lot of dudes who really, REALLY hate women. I mean, that should be self evident.

Also, to be clear, there's very good, reasons for folks to be skeptical about inviting men into allied spaces. It's complex. People are complex.

This. Right. Here.

Stop the triangulation it needs to die already.

I see what you're saying, and I actually completely agree with a lot of the sentiment. I think the real issue is broader than simple demographics.

That said, if you feel like the obvious alienation men are feeling from allied spaces isn't a big deal, well, I guess that's something you can choose to ignore at your own peril. I don't think it's a good idea, but I'm just some stupid dude.

An I demographic blaming?

Honest question, why so defensive? This post is demographic blaming, but am I supposed to go, "oh yeah I suck even though I am an ally." Is that it? Is that what you want? Subservience? Or an honest conversation so we can move forward?

Please don't get me confused, I don't think it's good this many men voted for The Stain. Also, 52% of WHITE women, but I bet if you combined ALL women, that number would drop dramatically.

My broader point is, IMO, that 42% never gets talked about so why would it grow, yeah?

Or, put another way, when I talk about women, who are my allies against the Patriarchy, I speak of why I like them (because I do, I LOVE women). They are resilient, strong, resourceful, grounded, etc, all the good stuff, and I try to include all women in that, they are my allies. I try NOT to focus on trad wives, manipulators, "gold diggers", abusers, weirdos like MTG or Caitlyn Jenner , you know, bad people (and there are plenty).

But when I hear about men in the ally space, it feels like I hear all about how awful and dangerous we are and that's it. And there's ALWAYS this group of guys willing to go along with it and point and go "yeah, we totally suck! You guys saying we don't are the real problem!" But, how is that motivating to anyone? It makes me upset, anyways. Maybe I'm just a big emotional baby, who knows?

Anyways, I'm blabbing. Bad habit of mine.

This isn't going to be popular, but part of the problem is not acknowledging that 42%. It's fucking insulting, frankly. Plenty of women voted for the bear.

EDIT: In light of reports of tons of guys saying "your body my choice" and shit, I actually regret writing this & everything below.

Like, what the fuck, boys?

Actually, the problem appears to be exactly voter turn out. With a healthy heaping of Neo-Liberal rot in the Democratic Party.

Happy Spooky Season! Be sure to read the manual.

Lol yeah, guess I was lost.

So, screaming at him all night didn't work?

Sleep easy OP, this is likely some bullshit.

Hexbear is way worse, imo. Those folks will straight up harass dissenters. Stay away or maybe just stick to your gaming sub if you're happy there.

Sometimes I put directions into Maps for a work thing and I have to be there before the location opens to the public and when I put the address in, before it will give me directions, the app says, "HEY, THE PLACE YOU'RE GOING MIGHT NOT BE OPEN, JUST THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW, STUPID ASSHOLE."

It makes me unreasonably(?) furious.