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Why on earth would you feel compelled to educate me about my local politics by pulling up some wiki pages and then refusing to even format your message?

and,

And Aloha Aina is the local party I had never heard of before seeing them on the ballot,

TIL

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And why the fuck would anything in this post indicate RFK might be someone to vote for?

I don't know, but it might be saying something about ballot acess laws in Hawaiʻi.

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The theoretical appeal of the Greens is progressivism, not the unfortunate antivax shit that’s glommed onto it.

fair enough.

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And Aloha Aina is the local party I had never heard of before seeing them on the ballot, which may sound good to you because you know nothing about Hawaii, but is something in the vague realm between nutjob sovereign citizen types and conservatives that can’t bear to be Republicans due to history.

according to WP:

According to its website, the Aloha ʻĀina party advocates for a sovereign Hawaiʻi through the framework of hoʻoponopono ("making right what is wrong"), believing the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom to have been an unjust act. It also promotes other Hawaiian values such as Mālama ʻĀina ("taking care of the land") and Aloha Kānaka ("love and care for the people").[2]

Do you live in DC, because in 2020, DC had, percentage wise, a Biden plurality bigger than in any of the 50 states.

wp:2020 United States presidential election in Hawaii#Results

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wp:Howie Hawkins

Howard Gresham Hawkins III[1][2] (born December 8, 1952) is an American trade unionist, environmental activist, and perennial candidate from New York. A co-founder of the Green Party of the United States, Hawkins was the party's presidential nominee in the 2020 presidential election. His ideological platform includes enacting an eco-socialist version of the Green New Deal—which he first proposed in 2010—and building a viable, independent working-class political and social movement in opposition to the country's two major political parties, and capitalism in general.[3]

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wp:2024 United States presidential election in Hawaii#Results

Apparently RFK, Jr isn't on the Hawaiian ballot, though your state has write-ins.

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slim pickings here:

wp:2024 United States House of Representatives elections in Hawaii

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however,

wp:2020 United States House of Representatives elections in Hawaii#Results 2

Aloha ʻĀina

Jonathan Hoomanawanui

6453 votes

2.37%

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wp:Aloha ʻĀina Party

The Aloha ʻĀina Party (Hawaiian for "love of the land") is a political party in the US state of Hawaiʻi that advocates for the Hawaiian sovereignty movement and the promotion of Native Hawaiian culture.[1][2]

because one of the candidates has promised to end democracy.

That candidate promised to do a lot of stuff.

And now move to the next election, 1860, in which the third party once again disappeared. No term-over-term progress made. I see no evidence any current minor parties are faring any better.

Huh?

That party's candidate—i.e. that third party's candidate—i.e. the Republican party's candidate—Abe Lincoln—won the US Presidency. (and with less than 40% of the popular vote)

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We have a steadily increasing number of Democratic senators and representatives who vocally oppose the genocide in Gaza.

Do they support cutting funding to Israel?

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The anti-genocide position correlates to politician’s generation, which is only going to improve further as Biden and Pelosi’s generation gets out and there are more of AOC’s generation and younger. Installing anti-genocidal local officials like sheriffs, judges, city councils, and university regents means peaceful protests wouldn’t be shut down as frequently.

They can join the protesters for all Israel cares: what matters far more to Israel is that Congress and the White House continues to send money—as Biden has and as I think Harris will continue to—though I readily concede that there is a significant possibility that she will either not, or at least contribute far less.

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Also: Harris Campaign THROWS OUT Muslim Leader From Rally.

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My down ballot will not be a straight Democratic ticket. But I’m sure as hell not giving Trump even a miniscule edge by throwing my vote for US president away on RFK Jr. or Stein.

Are you in a swing state, or are you in California, Maryland, Massachusetts, DC, Vermont, West Virginia, or Wyoming?

Amazon itself didn't exist until 18 months after Clinton took office—a few years after the first Intifada begun.

There was an election ad just before that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvhjsNiAFYk

0:31

here's another:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbuV9e5ZlXE

0:33

I can almost hear Trump now:

"Those children, those sweet Palestinian children, when they sang 'God Bless America,' oh my God, it was such a sweet version, and then that girl, what was her name? FAT-eh-mah, Fa-TEEM-mah, I don't know, I think it was FAT-eh-imah, but it doesn't matter, when she brought me those flowers and told me, 'Mister President, you are the greatest leader America ever had, the greatest leader in the world, could you stop the Zionists—whoever 'Zionists' are I don't know what a 'Zionist' is, I think it's some alien race in Star Trek—'from bombing my family, I know you can, because you are very powerful man, you are the most powerful man in the world, you can do anything,' I was so touch, so touched, so I phoned Bibi, and I said, 'Bibi, could you stop the bombing for a few days', and he said he would, but you know people, he didn't, so I cut his funding. I cut his funding, and he was mad, or maybe upset, not mad, but upset, because Bibi and I are such friends, I never had a friend as close as Bibi, but when you have friends, sometimes you have to be strong, so I said, 'Bibi, i'm going to cut you off for a while, because that sweet Palestinian girl, that girl who gave me flowers, said that some in her family were accidentally killed. I'm not blaming those soldiers, but sometimes, you have to think before you do stuff, and I think cutting them off for a while would help.' He was mad, oh yes, Bibi was very mad at me, he even said some angry words, foul words, he was so loud, I was worried he was going to get a heart attack or something, I never heard anyone be so mad, but sometimes you have to do things."

Do you regard elections as nuisances?

Presumably it's not narrowing the gap between the 2 de facto institutional political parties of America that threaten such, but rather either of them winning majorities.

Indeed, if say, California and Texas each voted >40% for the candidate of one of the de facto institutional political parties of America, >30% for the candidate of the other de facto institutional political parties of America, and <30% for candidates of third parties and independent candidates, presumably, we'd increase the chance of reform.

Do you live in a swing state, or do you live in a state where Biden's plurality was, say, 25% greater than Trump's (or Trump's plurality was 25% greater than Biden's)? (wp:2020 United States presidential election#Results by state)

Will Harris repeal Biden's 100% tariff on Chinese EVs?

As for climate change, nature is giving people in the Gulf states a few lessons. At present, the lessons are relatively subtle, but in time they will probably become more pronounced. Even if Trump wins this year (2024), he won't stop, say, 8 category 5 hurricanes from going over Mar-a-Lago over the next 4 years: I doubt the detonation of 1000 nukes would stop them.

How much of a margin do you want Harris to have over Trump in California? Should it be like Biden's and exceed 5 million votes, when even an excess of 1 million votes—or even 100 000 votes—would give her as many Californian Electors?

If Harris wins, the Democrats will learn that they can ignore progressives with relative impunity, and focus on what really matters—maintaining their power and positions;

and with the American people's (and other peoples') deference to incumbents, she will either win again in 2028, or fail so badly through incompetence that the GOP wins.

If she wins again in 2028, it will probably be the same-old-same-old as it was in Obama's 2nd term (e.g. the rise of Islamic State, occupation of parts of Ukraine by Russia, reputed slave auctions in Libya), or Clinton's 2nd (e. g. bombing Belgrade because he's not man enough to own up to to his extra-marital affairs).

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If Trump wins, the genocide will indeed be worse, though I doubt much worse.

He will end 2028 as an 82 year-old ending his 2nd term.

With decreased vigor, and continued rallies, his underlings will be quite busy with back-stabbing each other, and we might see both Houses go Democrat in 2026—a few months after his 80th birthday.

Presumably J.D. Vance will be the heir apparent, though far less loved than, say, Papa Bush.

Let's hope his Democrat rival in 2028 is up to it, but if wt:thon isn't, it will be thons and the party's fault.

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If Orange man wins the swings states, even though in each of those states, the votes for Democrats and 3rd party candidates combined significantly, perhaps greatly, exceeded votes for him, and if Californians stop being such 'fraidy cats and gave, say 15% to 3rd party candidates, resulting in yet again another overwhelming victory for the Democrat US Presidential candidate in California, the bigwigs in the DNC will realize that progressives will be ignored at the party's peril.