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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The claim wasn't that a code refactor is always a change in public interface, but that it could constitute a new major version. I listed two examples of when a major version should be incremented, the first being a change in a public interface, the second (erroneously) was a change in a private interface which I then clarified could only apply in the case of a more substantial code refactor, because as you pointed out (and I reiterated and agreed with), private interface changes don't necessitate breaking changes. It isn't an exclusive requirement that a public interface has breaking changes in order for the major version to be incremented, only that there be a new major version when that interface ~~breaks~~ introduces breaking changes.

I had to explain userchrome thoroughly in order to demonstrate that it is a public interface and differentiate it from the gui. I assumed it wasn't intuitive because you missed it when I provided it as an example initially and was accused of avoiding that point.

The first sentence of each paragraph addresses which point it argues other than the userchrome demonstration which follows from the prior paragraph and only addresses your userflow vs interface question in its conclusion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You are correct about private interfaces. When I wrote that I was imagining something more significant like a code refactor, but yes, obviously, changing something like an internal function definition would not require a new major version if it doesn't change a public interface. Similarly, implementing a bugfix or new feature wouldn't necessarily mean that an existing public interface was broken, or that the major version should be incremented. I didn't intend to imply that.

I am using public interfaces in my examples because the original point was how SemVer can communicate at a glance to the end user the kinds of changes that were made (compatibility-breaking, bugfix, etc.) and I had the offhand idea to also communicate when the update was released by including the date in the patch number. I am not confused about what semantic versioning is or whether it can only apply to public interfaces or libraries. If I knew it was going to start an argument, I wouldn't have mentioned backwards compatibility; it was an offhand comment tangential to the idea I was explaining. I could have just as easily said:

"I prefer the SemVer Major.Minor.Patch approach so I can tell at a glance if the update is a new feature release or is just bug fixes".

I don't think I skipped the question about Firefox interfaces. An interface I was looking at for backwards compatibility was in the example I provided with the UserChrome interface and I provided a specific example of a third party tool using that interface, the FireFox-UI-Fix project. Admittedly, this isn't a strong example because the UserChrome customization doesn't expose any functions to be called and doesn't define any kind of protocol in a traditional sense. But that doesn't make it any less of an interface in my opinion.

The UserChromeCSS customization feature is provided to the user by Mozilla for the purpose of modifying the browser's chrome i.e. graphical user interface (note I'm not confusing a gui with a programming interface, they just happen to be the same thing in this example). In order to make these customizations, the user must be aware of how the browser's gui is layed out, i.e. the user must know the structure of the HTML that makes up the browser's chrome. If the user writes a gui customization which depends on that structure for one version of the web browser but then the browser changes that HTML structure in the next update, that constitutes a breaking change. In this example the interface is defined by the chrome's HTML itself. The CSS written in the UserChrome.css references/selects that HTML and is thus dependent on the stability of that HTML in order to produce the same effects across different versions of the web browser. Third-party tools that distribute custom UserChrome.css files should therefore expect that their customizations be compatible across minor and patch versions of the same major version release. It's not necessarily that the major version must increment every time this gui is changed, but when the interface for customizing this gui has introduced a breaking change (which in this case is usually synonymous). I think this is what you mean when you say "userflow". If so, then no, I don't think "userflow" is an interface. The userflow/gui happens to be an interface in this example because of the UserChrome feature that exposes the gui to modification through its own HTML/CSS interface, the stability of which is depended upon by both users and third-party developers such as the Firefox-UI-Fix project I mentioned.

As for other Firefox interfaces which would call for a major version increment upon being changed, there is the WebExtensions API for browser extensions, and the cli arguments that you mentioned. I don't think providing an exhaustive list supports or invalidates any point or opinion I've stated. The major version number is incremented if any public interface changes, it doesn't have to be representative of a single interface exclusively. An application can provide multiple public interfaces, where a library tends to be more singularly focused (maybe this is the source of our disagreement/misunderstanding?). An incremented major version just means that there is some breaking change(s) in some interface(s). Conversely, an incremented major version number doesn't imply that every provided interface contains a breaking change.

If it's your opinion that SemVer is better suited to a narrow API or library where a new major version exclusively indicates a breaking change in its singular public interface. Ok. That doesn't indicate a lack of understanding SemVer on my part, and that's not a requirement of SemVer. There exist applications using SemVer that expose multiple interfaces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

My suggestion is in compliance with standard SemVer as far as I can tell, but yes it is frustrating when apps use versioning that looks like SemVer, but make interface changes in Minor versions and don't really adhere to SemVer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yes, especially for applications, and especially for Firefox. The Major version in SemVer increases with any interface change public or private (or it's supposed to). This is important to communicate to users who rely on any 3rd party plugins, or who need to open files created with prior versions of the software, including configuration profiles.

Using Firefox as an example, I use the Firefox UI Fix. If Firefox changes their browser userchrome/layout, this mod breaks. But it is nice that I can tell at a glance when a new Minor version or Patch version releases that it contains no changes that break this mod. Any breaking changes in these versions are bugs in Firefox.

As for higher number versioning. I'm not advocating that Firefox restarts their Major versioning number back to 0. They could skip Major versions and call the next Major version 200 for all I care. The only thing my comment advocated for was including the date in the patch version number.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

I prefer the SemVer Major.Minor.Patch approach so I can tell at a glance if the update breaks compatibility or is just bug fixes. Technically the Patch part can be any number as long as it increases each update of that same Minor version, so one could write the versions as AA.BB.YYMMXX where AA is the Major version, BB is the Minor, YY is the two digit year, MM is the month, and XX is just an incrementing number.

I think this approach has the best of both systems.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Smell-o-scope

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Omelette du Garbage

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Building webs is for suckas

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

If you play on PC, you can use a hotfix injector to mod the cost of gold, diamond, and skeleton chests to be free.

Borderlands 3 Gold Chest

Borderlands 3 Diamond Chest

Wonderlands Skeleton Chest

There's lots of quality-of-life patches and other fixes available too for both Borderlands 3 and Wonderlands.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

The most convenient userscript for me is this one that automatically likes YouTube videos. It's configurable to be able to: like the video after a specified watch percentage, ignore already disliked videos, only like videos from subscribed channels, and ignore livestreams. I like it enough that I've made a few pull requests to fix it when YouTube changes their UI.

When I have the time, I work on an in-progress local version to implement a few new features including: (1) Support for the YouTube shorts UI. (2) An option for a notification/toast to appear when the video has been liked. (3) An option to check the watch percentage continuously (mutation observer) instead of a user-defined poll rate which sometimes misses liking very short videos in playlists. Eventually I'd like to port something like this as a YouTube ReVanced patch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I think I had this guy's exact issue and maybe even stumbled upon his comment in that Microsoft support forum thread. It looks very familiar, but I could have just seen the meme before.

My problem was that I needed to do this for 100+ files, so using the UI individually for each file was out of the question. The eventual solution I found was in this tutorial for adding a context menu entry that changes folder/file ownership recursively. It's been very useful!

 

(Feel free to remove this as off-topic, but this relates to the post about the r/Piracy poll regarding what content will be permitted upon reopening. The body of this post wouldn't get the same reach as a comment on that post.)

Ahoy hearties! Here what I be thinkin'. Reddit be chargin' tens of millions of doubloons for third-mates to access the API, aye? They be claimin' to deserve a share of the booty for providin' trainin' data for AI (and obviously to kill competition with third-mate apps to boot).

Methinks if yee MUST chatter with those landlubbers (such as for the purpose of recruitin' new mates or cussing out mutinous scabs), then yee ought to make any text data yee provide unappealing and unusable to potential AI-training-customers.

Paintings of (Sexy) Captain John Oliver will only sully the attention of the human users. But (pirate) coded language mayhaps be an obstruction for bots? For those who find pirate speak to be too much effort, an alternative be to speak "sdrawkcaB".

I can no longer cast my bottled messages to Reddit's shore, so any of you seadogs are free to pass it along.

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