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The new legislation further simplifies mobilization procedures and introduces new penalties for draft dodgers.

President Vladimir Zelensky signed his country’s long-debated military mobilization bill into law on Tuesday, a legislation card publicly available on the Ukrainian parliament’s website indicates.

The mobilization bill was passed by the Verkhovna Rada earlier this month, following a drawn-out controversy over its contents. In a last-minute turn of events, the bill’s provisions became even stricter than they originally were, losing a demobilization clause.

The adopted legislation effectively means that all draftees are set to remain in the military indefinitely, with the change reportedly lobbied by Aleksandr Syrsky, the recently appointed commander-in-chief of the armed forces. A demobilization procedure is expected to be introduced in separate legislation, though it remains unclear when exactly such a bill could materialize.

The new law further simplifies draft procedures, with all Ukrainians obliged to “update data” on themselves with the military authorities within 60 days after the legislation comes into force. The provision applies to Ukrainians living abroad as well.

Apart from that, all the eligible individuals aged 18 to 60 now must always carry their military ID on them. Moreover, a conscription notice is now considered to be delivered to a draftee even should conscription officers fail to meet them in person at their residence and actually hand them their notice.

The legislation also introduces new penalties for breaches, including fines and suspension of a driver’s permit. The police can also forcibly deliver a suspected draft dodger to an enlistment office should a draftee fail to show up on being deemed to have received their conscription notice.

Critics of the legislation have been arguing it will only drive a wedge between the Ukrainian authorities and ordinary people. It has also reportedly received a poor reception within the military itself, given the lack of any demobilization mechanisms. The reception was apparently also influenced by the fact that the bill’s introduction was justified largely by the purported need to relieve war-weary soldiers from their military service.

Kyiv has maintained its mobilization drive since the early days of the conflict with Russia, which broke out in late February 2022. The mobilization effort grew increasingly chaotic and lawless over time, with numerous videos circulating online showing Ukrainian enlistment officers chasing potential soldiers in the streets, violently detaining them, beating them up, and so on. Senior Ukrainian officials, however, have routinely dismissed concerns over mounting violations as Russian propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don't agree with conscription.

Your country shouldn't be able to force you to kill people, and if the US ever tried to make me, I'd flee too. War only really serves the interests of the rich anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

So they should have just let Hitler murder his way across Europe and then continue his way into the rest of the world?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@awwwyissss @FlashMobOfOne if a cause is just it should be able to be taken care of voluntarily.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think volunteer armies would have stopped Hitler, or many other conquering forces. Mutual defense is a critical part of society.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

society sucks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

no one is saying that, just that they shouldn't be forced/conscripted to do so.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Would you volunteer to go fight the Nazis?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

possibly, depends on my life situation at the time in your hypotehical creation. If I was an 18 year old with no family to care for, probably, but at my current state as a the soul bread winner of a family of six, no.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What if you were conscripted into the medical corps? Or if you were military veterinary staff?

Not all military personnel serve on the front line.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In my opinion, that's also unacceptable. You're still facilitating the deaths of innocents and aiding the war machine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

@FlashMobOfOne I agree with you on a personal level. If others want to volunteer to do such I think they have a right to, even if I would recommend against them personally exercising such a right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

It sucks. Still doesn't make it the less shitty option, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Elementary, my dear Mr. Putin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Kbin shows a picture of Data from Star Trek smoking a pipe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

@ArugulaZ oh that was my profile pic until earlier today. Did you mean Mr. Data rather than Mr. Putin?