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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

No but all the studies I've read about it say that autistic people aren't as affected by it.

At least main stream propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Hey, I'm autistic! I notice that if I don't follow the group's current propaganda fueled nonsense, I am seen as an outsider and hated for asking those hard-hitting questions. Eventually, they think I'm "inflexible" or "will not change my mind" and then say i am "supporting the other guy" or whatever. Like what is wrong with playing with a little of devils advocate to get the full picture. Sheesh

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Haters gonna hate. Keep telling the truth man, these people need us even if they don’t like us.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Agreed. Keep telling the truth. Truth is always precious, and remains true.

But keep humble too. We can be prone to banging on some point that we're clearly right because no one gives any answer to our rational and reasonable questions/challenges... but there's some subtlety (or not-so-subtlety) we just didn't spot that means a lot to the other person and is why they fight what we think is obvious truth. And sometimes we're just completely wrong!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

When I'm arguing with others, what I really want - at least I like to think I really want - is for us all round to have the best chance at knowing the truth.

One of the best things I've learnt is to understand why a person holds their argument, both emotionally and logically/literally. If I understand, then I can affirm the parts we do agree on, the common foundations that help them see I'm not against them, and that give my perception of the truth/answer a chance of having meaning to them too.

It's uphill work, and often clouded by the fact that deep down I don't want to be wrong and that makes me 'fight' for myself without realising it myself. It also means sometimes I have to swallow my pride about something that's "obviously right" and "all sensible people know," and accept I don't actually have the evidence to show fairly to the other person.

But I find it's worth it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Same! This is one of the biggest reasons why autism makes me feel like an alien pretending to be human.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If all the studies say it, it must be right

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Durned science thinkin

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's why I specified mainstream

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I meant half a /s, just on the irony of "all the studies say" in the context of propaganda.

But I absolutely agree it makes sense autistic people are less affected by a lot of propaganda. Partly because it just pushes the wrong buttons (and other propaganda would work better: a bit like cultural divides); and partly because we autistics (I'm at least a little) often fuss more over literal meaning and "there's a problem with those two things you tried to implicitly connect". Of course it can also mean we're less affected by sensible people telling the truth in a way plain for cultural-normative neurotypicals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Can confirm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Elon Musk eat propaganda

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

You know what? You’re right. I’m not! Wow, and here I was thinking I was.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

If Garfield says it, I believe it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It's always been propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

So get a proper gander

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Must do what Garfie says.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

no

if i feel like im being influenced, I choose to not be

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

That's exactly how they get you, by telling you everybody is influenced (and stupid) but you and them, the smart people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's what they want you to think

>;-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I encourage you to keep doing that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

That's a reaction to propaganda

It's better than internalizing a lie, but rejecting a lie over and over pushes someone towards overreaction. It taints your ability to see nuance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

propaganda can be made in a way where you don't

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)