Even if you don't think it was murder, it's repulsive that he is trying to make a career out of killing two people.
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I think the debate is nuanced so I'm not trying to say it's absolutely equatable, I'm more trying to feel out your actual position.
If a woman was being abused by her husband, stood up to him and killed him in self defense...if domestic abuse/survivor groups invited her to speak, would it be also repulsive?
Or say that woman armed herself as a child(17 yr old) and walked into a tense situation of strangers untrained and ready to shoot someone... and then ends up shooting someone. Might be a better comparison.
Perfect example. She shoots him with a gun she bought and then brought back home. To the people who think he's a victim, you're the one saying "well, she should have left him and certainly not brought the gun into the house!"
But I understand that the question will be avoided at all costs, because that's the only way to deal with the cognitive dissonance.
You seem to be JAQing off here, but your straw man is pretty weak.
Let's say instead the abused woman is safely away from her husband and he can't harm her any more. Then she illegally obtains a firearm, drives 2 hours to the husband's place of work, starts a fight with him, and when he starts to get violent with her she the shoots him.
Do you think this woman is justified in the shooting?
"Charlie Kirk has said a lot of racist things," said a student addressing Rittenhouse from the audience.
"What racist things has Charlie Kirk said?" Rittenhouse challenged. "We're gonna have a little bit of a dialogue of what racist things that Charlie Kirk said."
The student responded of Kirk: "He says that we shouldn't celebrate Juneteenth, we shouldn't celebrate Martin Luther King day—we should be working those days—he called Ketanji Brown Jackson an affirmative action hire, he said all this nonsense about George Floyd, and he said he'd be scared if a Black pilot was on a plane. Does that not seem racist?"
"I don't know anything about that," Rittenhouse said from the stage, prompting jeers among the audience.
"Does that seem racist is a yes or no question, Kyle," yelled one attendee.
"Well, after all the things I just told you, would you consider that hate speech," the student asked Rittenhouse, who had a dog with him onstage.
"I'm not gonna comment on that," Rittenhouse said, sparking more noise from the crowd.
Seconds later, Rittenhouse abruptly exited the stage to cheers from the crowd. The attendees were then promptly ordered to depart the venue.
They fly him around the country, but the media outfit he's working for didn't bother to invest in media training for their homicidal poster boy?
So much for standing your ground.
Maybe I'm missing something as I'm not from the states. Why the hell is a guy who is famous for murder invites to talk at a university?
Rittenhouse was invited to speak at Wednesday's event by the university's Turning Point USA (TPUSA) chapter. Founded in 2012, the non-profit promotes conservative politics at schools and college campuses.
Kyle Rittenhouse is the Greta Thunberg of the right-wing. Change my mind.
Confronting Kyle Rittenhouse? Be careful, no sudden movements. We wouldn't want him to feel threatened, now would we?
I mean, based on history so long as you don't chase him down and try to take his gun, knock him to the ground and move to bludgeon him, or try a false surrender with intent to shoot him you're probably fine.
But seriously, if you think he just started shooting at the drop of a hat, watch the trial footage.
He's a dumbass kid who should never have gone to the protest in the first place (but had every legal right to be where he was) turned right wing grifter because no one else will have him, but all three of his shootings definitely fall under self defense.
I'll take my downvotes now for not expressing views that contradict trial evidence now, thanks.
Just like the Heard vs Depp case, people have already decided on the truth and they don't care that the evidence at trial painted a very different story than the one liberal media told you to believe.
Like you said, Kyle was a dumb kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and he was retreating every single time he shot someone. I hate this case because I'm left in the awkward position of defending a rightoid but that trial was very thorough and those are the facts.
I almost feel sorry for how this kid is going to be forever type-cast as a stupid gun-nut culture warrior type. Before his brain has even fully developed. What a disaster. What he did was gawdawful but it's likely he will NEVER learn from his mistake and become a whole human being. Not when being a total dumbass for the RW elitists willing to fund such things pays a lot better than the alternative, I bet.
And when people talk about how what he did was in "self defense"....I always ask, what fuck was he even doing there in the first place? He had zero reason to be there.
He won't learn from his mistakes, because despite being found NOT GUILTY in a court of law, he's still crucified by everyone, including social media like Lemmy. It's like when that dude with a smirk who was being yelled at by the Indian...the only thing people wanted to do is punch that kid... without even knowing the context. And, even after finding out the truth (how the Indians were in his face intimidating him) people still talk shit to him for being a Trump supporter...
he was at the demonstration to "protect businesses and provide medical assistance."
Remember kids: you can take lives to protect property. You can not damage property to protect lives.
He was being beaten with a skateboard, wasn't he?
Why did he go there in the first place? To "protect property" with his gun.
Yeah, but the shots were in self defence, even though he shouldn't have been there
So back to my comment:
He can go there, with his gun, to potentially take lives to protect property.
This is because the protestors are not allowed to damage property to protect lives.
WTF are you smoking? The dudes ATTACKED HIM FIRST... damn man...seems like you guys just insist on ignoring the facts.
Yea, but you're on Redd...I mean, Lemmy... so, the looters, arsonists and burglars get a pass...
Right, because property is more important than people.
Your only way of disparaging these people is "they were damaging property!" Which last I checked did not carry the death sentence.
Put them in front of a jury and a death sentence would be monstrous, put them in front of a vigilante and "they had it coming for stealing!"
"Property is more important than people" is a phrase being thrown around by the Left to try and make the Rittenhouse situation into something it isn't. He didn't go there to kill anyone. He went there to help defend stores, like 1000's of others did throughout the country (remember during the LA riots, Koreans sitting on top of their stores with guns? Were they horrible because they cared about their belongings?). He was attacked by some low lives who fucked around and found out.
Remember kids, you can riot, burn, and loot... as long as it's "for a good cause."
The Boston tea party is taught to every single kid in this country, give me a break. We're a country built on rioting burning and looting.
Lol..okay, let's compare the Boston Tea Party to people taking part in criminal acts in their own communities..
this dude bought a gun illegally (wasnt charged because of a loop hole) recklessly endangered numerous people. His parents fucking allowed this shit
AND he has the audacity to be a political figure? Fuck this guy, seriously.
Never mind he was found not guilty right? Because you know, public opinion matters more...
Careful, he may feel the urge to self-defend again from hecklers.
If this kid was black, you'd all be praising him for killing two white people who were attacking him. The reason Lemmy and Reddit hate this dude is because you associate him with some kind of "white privilege" for going to help defend businesses from being destroyed (at the request of the city's businesses who had enough of the rioting and torching) he ends up defending himself against criminals who were there just to cause problems.
He actively sought out confrontation and killed two people after he got the confrontation he wanted. The right idolizes him because he's a murderer and buddied up to white supremacists, and now he's pandering to them for money and affirmation, and runs away as soon as he faces any criticism.
So no, we don't dislike him for being white. We dislike him for being just like any other fascist grifter who fetishizes violence.
Oh brother..here we go..
Had a cheeky peek at your comment history and it sure seems like you’re at war with reality, friend. You do you, but that fight is never going to end.
"War with reality" is your way of saying "we must all think, act, and feel the same. If we're not all liberals voting Democrat, than our country is doomed!"
This dude is 100% innocent ...ya'll just mad that he killed two criminals.