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I do agree that the weakness of Part Two was that it was rushed, but i don't agree that it was incoherent. What it really needed was key scenes and events to be more fleshed out - say another 30-40 minutes?

It certainly didn't need to be split into two separate movies, though.

This was one of my complaints about the movie too, but after seeing it I decided to listen to the audiobook and tbh the book ends similarly. The final chapter is just rapid-fire story progression, ending with little fanfare after the dude just coup'd the entire galaxy. So, this complaint remains for me, apparently as a element of the canon. I'm still looking forward to the next book though, going to start it this week!

I haven’t seen the second Dune yet, but the first Dune to me was kind of a waste of a bunch of plot building exposition when it really felt like the movie wanted to be a series of stunning visual and action set pieces that told a story without needing words.

I just kept thinking while I was watching the first Dune that I wished it was made like the recent Mad Max was, because while the subversion and complexity comes into the plot in the second Dune, the first Dune movie’s plot was pretty forgettable especially if you are already tired of the trope Dune is subverting with Duncan as the hero figure (I was bored of superhero movies and YA adult fiction with universe saving wizards a longggg time ago). The universe and environments put up on screen were NOT tired however, and I just wish they showed me more of the world of Dune without attaching exposition and plot to it.

but wait a second did them just defeat the entire galactic empire in the span of 90 seconds. boy that was convenient huh. blech,

Not even close. We saw the beginning of a galactic war in which billions will die in the name of Duke Altredes.

I was actually really happy how short the action sequences are. I hate action movies. I'm glad the spent more time developing characters and their relationships

I do agree thatit was disappointing how the main battle was just over in the blink of an eye... Would have been fun to watch the worms crushing more troops!!

I really liked that the first film was like 30% plot and 70% worldbuilding and exploring. I don't read Dune because of the plot, I read it because it's so interesting with society and technology and cool concepts. The first film really did that for me. The one big action fight where they were betrayed was fantastic. When I read the book, it seems like basically one family and a few of their guards gets killed. The film showed the scale of a city-wide invasion and slaughter and it was really grand.

Second film though, that felt like it was mostly just fighting. Got kinda boring after a while. It's not what I look for in a Dune story. If I wanted that, I'd go back to Marvel.

So yeah, that's how I felt. But tbh, almost anything would be disappointing after how amazing I thought the first film was.

I suspect there will be a directors cut/extended version too be released. If not, I know I'll be disappointed. David Lynch's Dune had a Directors Cut that added almost an hour. Although it was mostly... Lynchesque, abstract dialogue, strangeness, etc.

I felt the Geidi Prime stadium scene was an infra-red footage showoff first and foremost. I wondered why so much runtime went toward setting up

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the na-Baron, only for him to die in the last 10 minutes.

Granted, I haven't read the books. Perhaps it's key to the story later, or illustrates something about the Harkonnens...

Agreed. It should have been long and drawn out and boring like the source material.

You have to see it as the conclusion to part one. It's not intended as a stand-alone.

I seriously wondered if the release group had messed up the rip, and had scenes missing or in the wrong order. One scene Paul is starting his training, the next that's apparently all done and they're now attacking a harvester. It's not like I wanted a training sequence montage or anything, but movies aren't usually paced like that. There was lots of jumping around in time and space, for quite small scenes (typically of a Harkonian murdering an underling or two).

I'm assuming it'll be like Rogue One, another choppy film that makes sense when you already know where it's going, so I'll re-watch it along with Part One at some point, and hopefully enjoy it more.

I agree. I still enjoyed it, I thought it was good - possibly it just didn't live up to the promise of the first. For the visuals & music alone I'm glad I went to see it. But it was definitely rushed, I think two films that stick closer to the text would have worked better personally - especially if they had a closer tone to the first.

I enjoyed the first movie, and was looking forward to the second, but I just have no desire to watch it now. I don’t know what changed, but I just don’t care.