/s is an excellent modifier for sarcasm. There's no tone in text and bold/italic can only do so much. And with how many absolute crackpots are posting all over the internet, I'd prefer to be sure to not lump in a jokester with the absolute nutjobs.
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Also helpful for people with trouble reading tone in text cuz of things like autism.
Source: me
...and writing tone... for the same reasons. 😬
It wouldn't be the first time I get myself into a trouble because of that :(
That’s the only legitimate defense for having to tag your sarcasm I’ve ever read.
Back in MY DAY, nobody tagged their sarcasm on BBS or IRC and we ALL UNDERSTOOD AAAAA (but srsly for folks who have trouble with tone you’re fully right.)
What are you talking about? Even usenet in the 80s recommended using emoticons to mark sarcasm/joking remarks.
Avoid sarcasm and facetious remarks.
Without the voice inflection and body language of personal communication these are easily misinterpreted. A sideways smile, :-), has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that "I'm only kidding". If you submit a satiric item without this symbol, no matter how obvious the satire is to you, do not be surprised if people take it seriously.
This. I remember having a text file of emoticons back in the day because I couldn't remember what they were supposed to mean (and often didn't mean what I thought). :-/
That’s a valid point! I forgot now many emoticons I’d use back then. I’ve always hated pointing out my sarcasm using extra things, though… I prefer to do it using italics, which is reeeeal helpful on Reddit where it goes over nobody’s heads at all.
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To me it's born out of this moment: "Wait, will someone see this joke and think I'm serious? If they did they'd think I'm a psycho..."
People on Reddit are scared of downvotes affecting their karma score, so they have to tag controversial comments to make it absolutely clear if their comment is sarcasm.
Am i wooshing myself??
That is literally the point of sarcasm. People legitimately wanted to murder Jonathan Swift.
If you write "/s", just write the direct unironic statement in the first place.
If that were holistically true the concept of a "sarcastic tone" wouldn't exist in verbal speech.
Yes, the /s and sarcastic tone both exist and are used by people.
Well, we certainly didn't leave that signature sense of superiority behind.
Honestly, that's so much worse here... The atheist posts are making me cringe pretty hard. I'm am atheist, so that's saying something.
It's like we got the best, and the worst, from Reddit.
But I am superior
Nope, I'm here.
I find /s helpful :(
In a world where the most outlandish opinions are often genuine, it definitely helps to have a sarcasm indicator.
I've run into some pretty fucking stupid people here
I thought /s meant stupid?
/s
Nope, but everybody over here thinks of themselves as smart. Sometimes that's worse.
"This website that I and others like me decided to migrate to is much better than the place I left. That must mean everyone who decided to come here is super smart!"
Don't get so full of yourself that you burst.
If you think there are no stupid people here, I've got some bad news for you...
(You might be one of the stupid ones)
This is some solid grade A pandering. You're aware there's no karma to farm, right?
I’d much rather have /s than comments that start with, or just say:
This.
Absolutely annihilates my patience towards humanity.
☝️this /s
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Do you read the comment sections on lemmy at all?
There is just as much stupid here as anywhere else on the internet.
As an ex-Redditor I do /s reflexively because I assume someone will always be offended. Welcome to the Internet, I guess.
fuck em, that's what i say.
if they don't get it, sucks for them.
other tone markers I'm more likely to do tbh (/gen). some people do struggle to get certain things, and tone markers can help move communication along.
sarcasm is supposed to be a facade. you dont fkin mark it!
Then just don't write the opposite of what you mean. It's not funny or witty or clever to write "Women should all just live in the kitchen, NOT."
Bashing denizens who decide to denote their sarcasm is as /stupid as bashing those who don't. "Oh no, now that the tone has been set the point is ruined!" Gosh, it must suck to be you, I'm genuinely sorry this is the way your brain works.
Well no, because the /s tag isn’t symmetrical.
In cases where the /s tag is used instead of sarcasm being interpreted successfully, there’s no mechanism to determine how well bonded and ready for complex communication a group is.
It’s similar to banter, where one insults one’s friends in good fun. It’s a readiness test. The guy who gets insulted by your banter isn’t ready to communicate at a complex level with you.
Same for people who can’t figure out when you’re being sarcastic.
Misinterpretation of sarcasm is a canary in the coal mine, an indicator that complex topics aren’t going to be successfully discussed here, because there’s too much misinterpretation happening.
It's not that the point is ruined. It's that it's no longer sarcasm. The whole point of sarcasm is that it seems like the message is genuine. Ironically, using /s makes a statement unsarcastic.
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