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BBC will block ChatGPT AI from scraping its content::ChatGPT will be blocked by the BBC from scraping content in a move to protect copyrighted material.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes sense, OpenAI will probably have to apply for a TV-license first.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't live in the UK, but I would gladly pay the TV license fee, or even a premium on top of it, if I had unlimited access to iPlayer. My only option right now is BritBox, which is not great and not really worth the money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just VPN to the UK and then tick the box which says you have a TV license? Or there are other ways to get the content most likely! 🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

VPNs are always blocked in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder if anyone thinks robots.txt is binding or not ignored by anyone who wants.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

OpenAI will have to deal with a lot of lawsuits in the future. Robots.txt may not be legally binding but disobeying it after claiming otherwise would go a long way towards establishing intent.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I mean, under the CFAA you could probably pretty easily pursue charges when explicitly deauthorizing certain agents from accessing your data. Plenty of people have been threatened and prosecuted for less.

https://www.nacdl.org/Landing/ComputerFraudandAbuseAct

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I mean, you could just block OpenAI's crawlers' IP addresses, if you wanted to

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big businesses wont lift a finger to halt global warming, but the second their precious copyrights are attacked they go into full force.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, yeah? Corporations are always going to act in their best interest, that's why regulation exists.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’d rather have ChatGPT know about news content than not. I appreciate the convenience. The news shouldn’t have barriers.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (13 children)

But ChatGPT often takes correct and factual sources and adds a whole bunch of nonsense and then spits out false information. That's why it's dangerous. Just go to the fucking news websites and get your information from there. You don't need ChatGPT for that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they have automated Fox then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, pretty much.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Who get their news from chatgpt lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

A disturbing number of people.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The pure ChatGPT output would probably be garbage. The dataset will be full of all manner of sources (together with their inherent biases) together with spin, untruths and outright parody and it’s not apparent that there is any kind of curation or quality assurance on the dataset (please correct me if I’m wrong).

I don’t think it’s a good tool for extracting factual information from. It does seem to be good at synthesising prose and helping with writing ideas.

I am quite interested in things like this where the output from a “knowledge engine” is paired with something like ChatGPT - but it would be for eg writing a science paper rather than news.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The data harvest has had years in the making.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Curious what the mechanism for this will be. CAPTCHA can sometimes be relatively easy to pass and at worst can be farmed out to humans.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

ChatGPT took down its Internet search to implement a robots.txt rule it would obey and allow content providers time to add it to their lists. This was done because they were being used to get around paywalls. So it’s actually very easy for them to do this for ChatGPT, specifically, which makes articles like this ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

When the horses have all bolted, BBC is the one to close the barn door.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Also FYI, you can see what some of the most popular websites that already blocked ChatGPT: https://wayde.gg/websites-blocking-openai

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comments are full of AI experts with wild theories about how Chat GPT works, lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The number of people with strong opinions on AI vastly exceeds the number of people who understand transformers architecture.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not for long. AI knows how to lie.

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