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[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Cleopatra VII would be one of these; she's always depicted as being beautiful, but she was so inbred that she put Charles II of Spain to shame. Just look at this family ~~tree~~wreath:

Cleopatra's coefficient of inbreeding was a fucking staggering 0.45, so almost half her alleles were probably identical. Charles II's inbreeding coefficient was a paltry 0.25 and he looked like this, so I leave it to you to ponder how hot Cleopatra would have been exactly:

[–] [email protected] 91 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A high coefficient of inbreeding means you get a higher chance of bad things happening. You can still win the genetic lottery even with bad odds.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Maybe Mark Anthony was into that slack-jawed gormless look - you never know what causes a career politician to abandon the empire!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Ok, but using a hapsburg as an example of what inbreeding looks like isn't very representative. That family specifically wanted to look like that. they were very proud of their "noble countenances". That's more the result of the generations of selective breeding by the previous generation choosing marital successors. They're more pugs really, Rather than examples of the general effects of incest. If you want more general results of inbreeding, maybe look to the Whitaker's. Though, they also likely have other preexisting mental health issues in their family, and there's no data about their actual family tree.

In reality tough, it's likely one of those things that's not as consistent as "they get all fucked up looking after x amount of inbreeding" there's just too many factors at play. And I mean, speaking of pugs, they're no more inbred than golden retrievers. Golden retrievers are beautiful and loving dogs that will die to cancer by the age of 10. So even when inbreeding issues do manifest, it's not always going to make you ugly.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I don't understand the graph, how do 3 people make a baby?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seriously dude? There are so many videos online that show this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Horizontal connected lines indicate siblings, not marital relation

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't understand why Ptolomy XII and Cleopatra III are drawn with a different connection to their parents. The local tree looks the same for both, but the lines are drawn differently.

Edit: nevermind, I scrolled down and saw the comment with the better picture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

With cum, cum.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What does the different types of lines mean? Solid vs lines vs dotted?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's really badly done. This one seems better:

Image

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Probably ran off with the wrong Ptolemy

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

She outbred

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I have no clue what's happening on the lower half of the image.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When your grandfather is also your great-grandfather and the brother of your other grandfather.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that inbreeding coefficient just proves harder in my mind that Cleopatra looked Greek as fuck, and maybe looked a little.... melted

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe she looked better when she was young ?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is that Audrey Hepburn? What movie?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Suzanne Pleshette was the actress, Leona Helmsley was the character in 'The Queen Of Mean.' Leona was a famous hotel owner [with her husband, Harry] Suzanne played the wife on the first 'The Bob Newhart Show' and did a lot of other stuff.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This makes me think of the film W., a chronicle of president George W. Bush's life. Who played the goofy-looking, monkey-eared president? None other than Hollywood hunk Josh Brolin (Thanos in the MCU, Cable in Deadpool, Brand in The Goonies, etc.)

I remember watching this film when it came out in 2008 and thinking, "Damn! George W. Bush is buff!" Especially in the oil rig scenes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that was strange. Sam Rockwell was surprisingly fitting as Dubya in Vice though.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Walking Tall showing the real dude as he was the year the movie came out when he was an old man.

"That dude did all that? No way."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

I meant TV ugly not ugly ugly

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd go with Salma Hayek for the uplift in Frida.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I raise you Sofia Vergara in Griselda

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Wow, that is quite the upcast there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Reverse of this happened for me at the end of The Big Sick. I was “wow, maybe i am racist but the actor is really similar to the guy”… it is based on the real life story of him and his wife

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Conjuring. Ed and Lorraine Warren aren't exactly lookers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Or honest...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The TV show "Scorpion" for several reasons