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Fediverse is a portmanteau of "federation" and "universe".

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[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Interesting project! Can you explain the vision a bit more - I understand that every instance can have their own version of an article, but how would a user know which version of an article is most relevant to them to read (and maybe even contribute to)?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You've picked a nice name :) I'm glad you didn't choose fedipedia.

I just created an account on open.ibis.wiki and created "Lemmy" article but it's not shown on ibis.wiki ๐Ÿค” I guess it still has a long way to go, but I think it's a nice project ๐Ÿ‘

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Right ibis.wiki wasnt following open.ibis.wiki. I did that now, made an edit and it got federated as expected.

https://ibis.wiki/article/[email protected]/history

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[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

A great idea. I wonder if the fandom wikis could move onto the platform and therefore make the adoption widespread.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Yay Holocaust denialism /s

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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Thank you for working on this in addition to Lemmy! order-of-lenin

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Crazy how many people can suddenly peer into the future when this post was made! I hope they can use this power for good, maybe save us from horrible tragedies in the future instead of wailing about a Wikipedia alternative. Great work nutomic! I hope folks pitch in to help this project you've begun.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Half the comments in this thread are the exact same as when we started working on a reddit alternative lol. "I don't see why you're doing this, reddit works fine for me."

Also I'm pretty stunned that more people aren't aware of wikipedia's many scandals and issues. I suppose if you use a site every day and don't see what's going on behind the scenes, you don't seek these things out.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Cool I hope it works out, more alternatives aren't a bad thing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

โ€ฆwhy?

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Damn man that looks cool and seems to have real potential and also congratulations about your daughter .

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (8 children)

You are underestimating, by a mile, the editorial effort that goes into fighting scam and spam, vandalism and lies. Wikipedia does have a support structure to do that, I doubt instance admins have the same kind of resources.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Also, any such wiki has to be allow-list only by default. Any open wiki is vandalized with spam and hate speech almost immediately. Open federation would make this trivial.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The abuse potential this has feels quite concerning. You've just given kiwifarms a decentralized tool to host its stalking profiles on people.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Gabe, KiwiFarm started from the forum section of CWC Wiki (in fact, the name KiwiFarms itself is a corruption of "CWC Wiki Forums"), which was hosted on MediaWiki, so "not letting KiwiFarms host their own wiki" is a ship that has long since sailed.

I really fail to see how this has more abuse potential than hosting an independent wiki on MediaWiki, even if the content they host there is... not very nice, to say the least. If anything, there is more control against abuse since they would just be defederated.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Every tool a can be abused... If we were not making tools based on their harm potential wed still be in the cave. People said the same thing about Gab and mastodon.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

I think a centralized view of knowledge that Wikipedia provides is great, plus the record of changes and discussions help capture some of the nuances people are aiming for.

That said where this really accelerates is when bias is wanted. For example the Arch wiki vs Debian wiki vs Wikipedia all SHOULD have biases that cater to their specific audience, even if there is obvious overlap.

Interestingly use of wikidata could help create aknowlledge graph associating parts of the fediwikiverse and we might be able to see a dream of mine ; dynamic knowledge content. Where I might be an expert in databases so I can get the condensed version of how postgres but get the beginners version of kubernetes on an article about deploying them together

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